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Old 02-17-2015, 01:44 PM   #1
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Honda Ridgeline Revival

I was expecting the Honda Ridgeline to fade away permanently after its discontinuance for this model year, following the example of other niche vehicles which have survived through only one extended generation. It looks like I was wrong - a side note in Honda's recent presentation about the 2016 Pilot was about the related Ridgeline, which will apparently get revived to share the new Pilot platform, according to various reports. The Pilot is to be released late this year as a 2016 model; the Ridgeline might be a year behind that. The presentation was at the Chicago Auto Show yesterday (2015 Feb 16).

The possible significance to Escape owners is that the Ridgeline has sufficient capacity to tow all conventional Escape models, although depending on passengers, cargo in the truck, and cargo in the trailer a 21-foot might be pushing it. The current version has been towing Escapes for forum members for years. The cab-to-axle clearance on a Ridgeline is very short for even an original Escape 5.0, let alone the wider 5.0TA, and the expected change in body profile probably won't be enough to address this issue for the fifth-wheels.

For those who want a Honda and long wheelbase, or a Honda and an open cargo bed, or just like the characteristics of this vehicle, it's good news.

One caveat: the designer's conceptual drawing seems to show an increased rear overhang, which would (if it becomes reality) degrade towing behaviour.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:10 PM   #2
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The current Ridgeline had a towing capacity of 5,000 lbs. We towed across the country with no problems. The current Pilot has a towing capacity of 4,500 lbs. No word at the introduction as to the capacity of the new Pilot. Rumors in the Ridgeline forum are of a 6 spd and 9 spd transmission and a towing capacity of maybe 5,500 or 6,000 lbs. p
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There's all sorts of material in other forums, but most of what I've seen looks like wild speculation or rumour, although it can be interesting if only to see what current Ridgeline owners are asking.

Here's the very minimal Honda web page:
Next Generation Ridgeline
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A Mercedes Benz G-class SUV caught my eye today and with nothing to do during a time out in the Scotties Curling I looked it up.
The economy version is $122,000 in Canada and the AMG version is $152,000.
The tow capacity is - yes, - .

Technical specs here: Mercedes-Benz Canada - Facts & Figures - Technical data
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There's all sorts of material in other forums, but most of what I've seen looks like wild speculation or rumour, although it can be interesting if only to see what current Ridgeline owners are asking.

Here's the very minimal Honda web page:
Next Generation Ridgeline
Within the last week, the administrator of the Ridgeline site has closed the old discussions and started one with information that seems to be coming from Honda which he is posting. It could be complete bs but seems to me to be very reasonable given some of the details and the source, and the direction of the other large Honda products.

Next-Generation 2017 Ridgeline latest information - Honda Ridgeline Owners Club Forums

I do agree there have been many rumors and Honda has been less than forthcoming.
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A Mercedes Benz G-class SUV caught my eye today and with nothing to do during a time out in the Scotties Curling I looked it up.
The economy version is $122,000 in Canada and the AMG version is $152,000.
The tow capacity is - yes, - .

Technical specs here: Mercedes-Benz Canada - Facts & Figures - Technical data
That didn't make sense to me at first so I followed the link, and indeed the towing capacity is listed as "-"... meaning none. This vehicle is the current version of one which started as a military machine (and is in fact the current Canadian light transport - we have over a thousand of them), so the fundamental capabilities of this rugged truck design have been forgotten. The G-Wagen has separate body-on-frame construction and beam axles.

It just goes to show that nothing should be assumed based simply on some design characteristics. The Honda Ridgeline is a unibody with a drivetrain that is primarily front-wheel-drive... and I think it makes a perfectly good truck for many purposes.
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Yup. V8 bi-turbo delivers 560 HP and has a top speed of 210 KPH, but can't tow anything. It's in the details.
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Yup. V8 bi-turbo delivers 560 HP and has a top speed of 210 KPH, but can't tow anything. It's in the details.
The G550 has a towing capacity of 7000 lbs when properly equipped. It looks like it's just an omission on the spec sheet you linked.

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Details, details.
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Now clearly, trailers are much more difficult to tow in Canada, so the Mercedes rating is zero here and 7000 lb in the U.S. We just need to hope that the laws of physics work differently for Honda.
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