Tongue Weight - How To Measure - Page 4 - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Towing and Hitching
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-10-2013, 12:17 AM   #31
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 10,715
It's in the driveway, which doesn't really look like much of a slope, until you try to get the trailer level. I have to put six or eight inches of blocks under the trailer jack and raise it all the way to get it level.
All perfectly contrary to municipal bylaws, but if a neighbor was to complain, they would have to live within 200 metres.
I have to laugh, every time I go by stickie owner in the neighborhood. His is also in the driveway and it's a 'STEALTH'. All 38 feet of it.
__________________

__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 12:18 AM   #32
Site Team
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 6,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
I just went out and read the instructions that came with my Sherline, it specifically states to measure the weight with a level trailer. The most accurate measurement of tongue weight is achieved by measuring right where the hitch actually rests on the ball. An extension is provided that screws into the top of the cylinder so that you may support the trailer hitch in this manner. Always measure the hitch weight with the trailer level (trailer wheels blocked to prevent movement) and the hitch at the approximate height it will be when installed on the tow vehicle.
I know what the book says, I have a Sherline also. Try this.... weight the trailer tongue at level. Now weigh the trailer tongue at the height (and angle) of tow height. Compare the two weights. I've found that there's a 35#+ difference to the high side at tow height. Did you ever ride a teeter-totter when you were young? It's the same thing. It's a matter of physics.
__________________

Donna D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 12:22 AM   #33
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 10,715
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett View Post
I would just like to weigh mine again. Something I have been very negligent about, and should remedy. I have always thought about getting a Sherline scale, just haven't yet.
If you do get the scale, specify the gauge that reads to 1,000 lbs. I got mine at etrailer.com and they only offered the one that reads to 2,000 lbs. That puts the needle at the bottom of the dial, which is harder to read and less accurate ( by a pound or two ) than the middle of the gauge.
I ended up ordering a new gauge from Sherline and installing it myself. I'm not entirely sure that it is still accurate, which is why I want to measure it against another.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 12:27 AM   #34
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 10,715
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D. View Post
I know what the book says, I have a Sherline also. Try this.... weight the trailer tongue at level. Now weigh the trailer tongue at the height (and angle) of tow height. Compare the two weights. I've found that there's a 35#+ difference to the high side at tow height. Did you ever ride a teeter-totter when you were young? It's the same thing. It's a matter of physics.
In my situation, the trailer is level ( regardless of the slope of the drive ) when I weigh the tongue and level when I pull it out to the road and hook up the WDH. So, I should get the same weight.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 01:04 AM   #35
Senior Member
 
KarenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 1,922
Send a message via Skype™ to KarenH
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
Always measure the hitch weight with the trailer level (trailer wheels blocked to prevent movement) and the hitch at the approximate height it will be when installed on the tow vehicle.
I'm somewhat afraid to jump into this fray, but it appears to me that what they mean is that the ground is level...the trailer itself may or may not be level depending on hitch height. If the ground is sloped there would be a horizontal component (vector) to the gravitational pull on the trailer thus altering the tongue weight.
__________________
Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
Ford 150 XLT 5.8L
Bellingham, Washington
KarenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 01:05 AM   #36
Senior Member
 
escape artist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 5,277
Hi: Donna D... The only time I rode a tetter-totter when I was young...the girl jumped OFF!!! Proved another law of physics "What goes up...must come down". Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
__________________
Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'10 Frontier CC. S.E. 4X4 Lng. Bed V6 '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas Ont.( Not the Virgin Islands)
escape artist is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 01:12 AM   #37
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 10,715
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH View Post
I'm somewhat afraid to jump into this fray, but it appears to me that what they mean is that the ground is level...the trailer itself may or may not be level depending on hitch height. If the ground is sloped there would be a horizontal component (vector) to the gravitational pull on the trailer thus altering the tongue weight.
The wheels are chocked so there should be no horizontal component, and if there was, I'd have been run over by the trailer.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 01:19 AM   #38
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 10,715
As an aside, I got a plastic CD case at London Drugs, that is the perfect size to contain the Sherline scale. Has a carry handle on the lid.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 03:03 AM   #39
Senior Member
 
float5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 4,898
We don't have a carry case and still use the box. But what I think of when I think of a Sherline is men I saw many years ago walking around with their Sherline scales, carefully cuddling them in their hands as if they were little baby animals.
__________________
Cathy. Floating Cloud
"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
float5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 07:18 AM   #40
Site Team
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 6,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo View Post
As an aside, I got a plastic CD case at London Drugs, that is the perfect size to contain the Sherline scale. Has a carry handle on the lid.
That's a GREAT idea. My box is getting a bit ratty.

BTW: there is no fray here. I don't think there is anyone on Escape forum that's towing with a marginal vehicle... unlike at FiberglassRV. There are folks that may damage their tug if uninformed. It's all about knowledge...

Carry on!
__________________

Donna D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.