Towing on steep grades at high elevation - Page 9 - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Towing and Hitching
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-04-2014, 09:27 AM   #81
Senior Member
 
rbryan4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2015 F150 Ecoboost
Posts: 7,575
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave&Jane View Post
I think your Garmin picked a good route, considering the remote conditions and mountainous terrain between Moab, UT and Dinosaur NM: 211 miles with an 8300 ft. pass via CO 139. An alternative route through Price, UT is OK, but it's 246 miles with a 9100 ft. pass on US 191. Otherwise, you could go east to Rifle, CO and north on CO 13 for a 7400 foot pass, but the distance is 310 miles.

Towing in the Intermountain West requires patience, with slower speeds and longer travel times, but you will be MUCH faster than the semi trucks on those same roads. Also, many of those roads have extra lanes and other passing opportunities so slow vehicles won't hold up traffic.

-Dave
I'd have gone with Price Dave. I remember when I was a boy, Price Canyon was a bit trecherous, but they've widened it and changed the grade in a lot of places, since they figured out its the only route from Moab to the Salt Lake Valley. 191 to Duchesne is way different now too.
__________________

__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
rbryan4 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 10:30 AM   #82
Senior Member
 
Mike Lewis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Santa Rosa County, Florida
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 1,373
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4 View Post
I'd have gone with Price Dave. I remember when I was a boy, Price Canyon was a bit trecherous, but they've widened it and changed the grade in a lot of places, since they figured out its the only route from Moab to the Salt Lake Valley. 191 to Duchesne is way different now too.
I came down to Moab from SLC via Price, a route I've taken several times in the past, so I was familiar with it. I figured I'd go via Price on the way up to Dinosaur NM; I was surprised when the Garmin sent me on a different route. And I had a hardcopy road atlas with me, I just neglected to look at it for mountain passes on that day. I'll get a more detailed atlas and not make that mistake again.
__________________

__________________
Mike Lewis
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie-- Propane.
Mike Lewis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 10:37 AM   #83
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catchlight View Post

We're going to the Big Smoke (Vancouver) next weekend and will check out recent, preowned Tundras and the Sequoias.
.
Just be sure you get the car fax on the truck to see where its been registered ..... lots of leased (abused) trucks with fairly low miles coming in from the Alberta oil industry & being dumped in BC.
Fiberglass Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 11:28 AM   #84
Member
 
Dave&Jane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Logan, Utah
Trailer: Escape 17B (2014)
Posts: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4 View Post
I'd have gone with Price Dave. I remember when I was a boy, Price Canyon was a bit trecherous, but they've widened it and changed the grade in a lot of places, since they figured out its the only route from Moab to the Salt Lake Valley. 191 to Duchesne is way different now too.
I like the US191 route, too! That "Indian Canyon" road is a favorite (and only) north-south way between I-70/US6 and US40 in eastern Utah. Yes, Price Canyon (US6) is a hazardous and one of the deadliest in the US The Deadliest Roads Are Rural : NPR, but you only drive it for a couple of miles before turning north at Helper on US 191.

My point is that it was not a fault of the GPS when it proposed a shorter and quicker route through western CO. That CO route has a lower elevation, too, but I don't think the GPS considered that.

-Dave
__________________
Dave and Jane
Logan, Utah
Dave&Jane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 12:00 PM   #85
Senior Member
 
MyronL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Edgewood, New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 2,062
"...The westbound descent from the summit of Teton Pass begins with a 25 mph speed limit and a truck warning sign--"Steep grade--10% next 3 miles--use lower gear." This grade warning is repeated a mile later. About 2 miles down from the summit the grade eases to 6-7% and the speed limit increases. This grade continues for about 3-4 miles and eases near the Idaho state line..."

We took that route home on a recent Tetons trip. (Picture here ain't it...was too busy driving.) Quite a thrill...and must confess- a lot more fun on highway 22 than on I-40. ET-19 handled it well.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Ouray550.jpg (120.7 KB, 21 views)
__________________
Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
MyronL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 12:39 PM   #86
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiberglass Fan View Post
Just be sure you get the car fax on the truck to see where its been registered ..... lots of leased (abused) trucks with fairly low miles coming in from the Alberta oil industry & being dumped in BC.
Just look at the radiator. If there is 25 pounds of gravel stuck in the fins you will know where its been.
GerriJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 12:43 PM   #87
Senior Member
 
Dave Walter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19 & 15B
Posts: 1,869
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave&Jane View Post
... Yes, Price Canyon (US6) is a hazardous and one of the deadliest in the US The Deadliest Roads Are Rural : NPR, but you only drive it for a couple of miles before turning north at Helper on US 191. ...
Yikes. I drove that road in July pulling my Escape. Didn't seem that bad at the time. I guess I should have increased the coverage on my life insurance before we went.
__________________
2013-19' & 2013-15B {avg is two 17's}, towed by 2011 Toyota FJ Cruiser

"It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it." - 1907, Maurice Switzer
Dave Walter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 02:21 PM   #88
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21. Tow vehicle: 2012 Toyota Tundra Crewmax.
Posts: 325
Fiberglass Fan, thanks for the heads up regarding previous ownership. I'll make sure to check the ownership records. Apparently any Toyota dealer can run the VIN number and get a list of whatever service has ever been done by any Toyota dealer. I'll insist on both documents (and check for the gravel that GerriJ mentioned).
__________________
Brent and Cheryl.
Catchlight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 04:49 PM   #89
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 272
Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker View Post
Yikes. I drove that road in July pulling my Escape. Didn't seem that bad at the time. I guess I should have increased the coverage on my life insurance before we went.
I drove that route last year too and I wasn't aware of its reputation. The one that gave me the heebie jeebies is route 129 from Clarkston Wa to the Grand Ronde River crossing. Especially when every motorcycle club in Western Washington is out for a run.
GerriJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2014, 12:44 AM   #90
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 9,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catchlight View Post
I'll make sure to check the ownership records. Apparently any Toyota dealer can run the VIN number and get a list of whatever service has ever been done by any Toyota dealer.
I came to consider this normal - after a decade owning our Toyota Sienna - and when I recently bought a used Mazda I was surprised and disappointed to find that there was no similar system at Mazda. The dealer did pull the records of work they did (and gave me copies with the previous owner's name and contact info removed), but they had no way to get to information from other dealers.

It's handy, but it doesn't tell you with any certainty what has been done to the vehicle, because it is only for Toyota dealers. Anything done by the owner or by an independent shop or by any other brand of dealership - even using parts purchased from a Toyota dealer - won't show up.

A CarProof or CarFax report is similar: it shows useful information (probably complete for registration and for major insurance claims, which is very useful), but many of the types of information they claim to show is only there if companies and agencies report it... and they often don't. For instance, it won't show every bit of collision damage, and is unlikely to show any non-collision mechanical repairs.
__________________

Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.