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Old 03-31-2016, 04:09 PM   #11
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I have a 2015 eco diesel 6 ft. bed and had thought about a 5th wheel hitch. I did a quick check of Etrailer. It looks like they don't list a hitch for the 5 1/2' Ram and it appears they may have different hitches for the 6 ft. eco diesel and non eco diesel models.
In almost any modern pickup truck, despite the variations in cabs and boxes the truck is identical from the rear axle area rearward - all of the change in length due to different cabs and boxes is accommodated within the wheelbase. This means that the same brackets usually fit the same way regardless of the box length.

When retailers or manufacturers says that a fifth-wheel can only be used with a certain length of box, they are usually assuming a specific width of trailer (now typically 102", the legal maximum) and saying that there isn't enough clearance from hitch to cab to turn the trailer. Escape trailers are much narrower, so less distance is needed to the cab, and these blanket statements about usability do not necessarily apply.

I don't know what causes the dependence on the engine, but a reasonable guess might be that there is interference between the exhaust system and the mounting brackets, so you need brackets designed to fit with your exhaust.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:11 PM   #12
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The only issue with hauling the 5.0 TA I'm aware of is with the Ram is air suspension and the ram box storage. If you do not have these then you should be ok.
As I recall, the Rambox feature doesn't matter, but it is normally packaged with air suspension, and there is interference between some air suspension hardware (air hoses, etc) and the brackets. This is apparently not a big issue, but requires some attention during installation.

Air suspension is actually a great match with fifth-wheel towing; it is common to add air springs to trucks which tow big fifth-wheel trailers, so the suspension can be adjusted to the load.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:11 PM   #13
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Other forum members have been down this path...

rscovell has a Ram 1500 EcoDiesel crew cab short box Laramie 4WD with air suspension and Rambox, and tows a 5.0TA:
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Sue & I have been traveling down the Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway.
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We now have 17,666 miles on the truck (6 Months). My initial mileage on the highway without the trailer has stayed the same (25-26). Mileage with the trailer has varied, I do get 19-20 on the highway, but on hilly terrain it drops to 17-18. My initial warning on the Rambox option proved to be wrong, have not had any issues even with sharp turns. We really like this truck, it is very smooth riding and quiet. As Jim mentioned, the 8 speed transmission is terrific. In the hills it almost thinks for you, especially on steep down hill runs.

jhardie
also has a Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, and uses the B&W Turnoverball/Companion hitch system:
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A little update on the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel .... So far I'm still very impressed with this truck pulling the 5.0TA and I'm getting in the 18-20 mpg towing and have gotten over 31mpg not towing mostly 60-65 on freeways. As far as the B & W turnover ball hitch I had installed I'd say it was overkill for pulling the TA as it's rated at 20,000 ibs... The reason I put it in was so I could remove the hitch completely and use the bed without any rails etc and I felt it was well made. I have the 6'4" bed and I can get a close to 90deg turn if I needed to but hope I don't and I haven't had any issues with the Escape hitch set up. About the air suspension... As I mentioned in an earlier post the install was a B...H especially with the routing of the airlines but I would still choose it as an option... The ride is great and the truck self levels with the trailer attached. Overall I'm very happy with this truck.
Scuba55 has a Hemi (not EcoDiesel) Ram 1500 and uses the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection system to tow an Escape 5.0. He posted photos of his setup.

Each of these members has several other posts about their Ram 1500 / Escape 5.0TA experience.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:40 PM   #14
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I had an ecodiesel shortbed 2014 longhorn loaded pulling 2015 5.0TA. I Used this configuration for a year and 18,000 miles without any issues. Trademasters installed the brackets and rails for a B&W patriot.
When I bought the ecodiesel, the dealer had me signed a document to acknowledge the payload of the truck being 895 pounds.
Now, my TV is 2500 Ram cummins and better peace of mind towing my 5TA - gas mileage is lower than the ecodiesel by 2 mpg
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:55 PM   #15
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Scuba55 has a Hemi (not EcoDiesel) Ram 1500 and uses the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection system to tow an Escape 5.0. He posted photos of his setup.
Sorry - typo: Scuba55 has a 5.0TA (as you can see in his photos).

That's four Ram 1500 + 5.0TA combinations; 3 EcoDiesel and 1 Hemi, and at least two of them the 5.5' box.
Hitch variations:
  • B&W Companion on B&W Turnoverball
  • B&W Patriot on rails
  • Andersen Ultimate on rails

There is substantial variation in truck equipment (trim levels and options) and hitch hardware; there could be lots of variation in trailer equipment and cargo.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:42 PM   #16
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Dodge Ram 1500 Eco diesel 5.5 ft bed

Curt makes custom brackets for the fifth wheel hitch to fit the Ram 1500 5.5 ft bed. I had mine installed and pulled the 5.0 Escape I bought home and all went great. Thanks again for all the input.
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