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Old 08-30-2013, 04:37 PM   #21
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If a V6 Tacoma is inadequate to tow any Escape safely, then all of those big rigs out there should be pulled off the road right now, because their performance is far worse.
I am passing these units all the time with my Pilot and 19.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:14 PM   #22
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I entirely understand and appreciate the question "Why do you choose your size of tug?". I am more than a little annoyed by "Why are you doing something unsafe?"... it certainly appears to be an accusation, just as "Why are you so ugly?" is a criticism phrased as a question.

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I am passing these units all the time with my Pilot and 19.
Same here in our Toyota Sienna and Boler 1700 (like a chubby Escape 17... wider, heavier, rounder).

I also pass the big diesel pickups, because they are usually towing much bigger trailers. They may have up to twice the power, but their GCW is 6 to 12 tons instead my 4 tons. Are they unsafe due to poor performance?

I have not towed for a while, and towed a rented 6'x12' U-Haul yesterday with our Toyota van (these were called "minvans", but they're not so "mini" anymore). While the trailer was like a boat anchor on the vehicle's performance, it reminded me how good the performance of our tug/trailer rig is compared to our Class A motorhome, but even the motorhome runs up hills (such as long mountain grades) past those big commercial tractor-trailer rigs.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:24 PM   #23
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After reading post #4 and bits and pieces mentioning air bags, WDH, and poor fuel mileage, I just had to ask the question. I suppose towing a 15' or 17' with a Tacoma 6cyl. would be adequate. It is human nature to add a lot more carry weight on a 4 week trip in a 19' or 21'. Two axles may give you a false sense of security. Many are trading up. Some of you might be surprised on the scales. I have traveled up and down many 6% to 8% grades with switchbacks in the US Rockies. You loose horsepower, torque, and cooling at high elevation as air density changes. Falling off the edge of pavement, high cross winds, head winds, steep grades, and the loaded weight of your trailer and loaded vehicle are just a few issues one might want to consider when choosing a tow vehicle. The thread question was about towing performance with Toyota Tacoma in the Canadian Rockies.

Yes..I live in the "Land of Bigger Everything". We tow with a Dodge 2500/Cummins which gives me the power and weight to comfortably handle almost anything that arises. I average 18 towing and 20mpg without the 5.0. I have no problems with Toyota or small vehicles. I have a Camry Hybrid out in the garage as a daily driver that I dearly love.
To those who lashed back...Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
Please end this particular discussion concerning my question on small tow vehicles.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:10 PM   #24
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"gives me the power and weight to comfortably handle almost anything that arises".
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:35 PM   #25
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Can we all relax? I'd feel more comfortable and secure with a 5,000 lb. tow capacity, but my RAV4 is my daily driver and tow vehicle.
It's a compromise. But, it works. So far.
If my circumstances were different, I'd have a Hummer that you could actually park somewhere.
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:42 AM   #26
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For myself, I tow my trailer maybe 5-10 trips a year. This trips are anywhere from 5 to possible 10 hrs in duration. I drive my truck daily to go mtn bike riding, moto riding, hiking and just daily running around. I work 120 day a year on a boat so the truck sits while im working. So for roughly 230 day I don't need a bigger tug. To drive around in a full size truck makes no sense for my personal lifestyle.

Now when the day comes that I am travelling with my trailer more days than I drive it around town, that will be the day I look at a bigger truck. I would likely also be looking at getting a bigger trailer if I was spending that much time in it.

I kinda laugh at my friends that have heavier trailers and need bigger trucks to tow them. Roughly the same amount of trips as myself and yet they drive daily to work and have to use these bigger trucks to get around. Seems a little silly to me, but thankfully we can all make our own choices in life.

I actually thought Escapes biggest selling point was that they can be towed by smaller vehicles?
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I am passing these units all the time with my Pilot and 19.
You made me remember going west climbing out of Denver on I70 and passing one big rig after another that had huge dual rear axle diesel tows as they struggled up the long climb.

Given the weight of an Escape vs those huge trailers, I would guess that my "little" Tacoma's tow power to my trailer weight ratio is a lot better than most of those big rigs.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:32 AM   #28
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You made me remember going west climbing out of Denver on I70 and passing one big rig after another that had huge dual rear axle diesel tows as they struggled up the long climb.

Given the weight of an Escape vs those huge trailers, I would guess that my "little" Tacoma's tow power to my trailer weight ratio is a lot better than most of those big rigs.
Yep, your "little" Tacoma is just fine. I'm thinking some folks here might need to take their Escapes out with whatever the heck they tow with and go someplace and relax.
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Do you use the Anderson WDH? Do you have to disconnect the WDH when reversing?
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