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Old 09-29-2016, 10:00 PM   #1
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Manning Park In the Cold

I wanted to try out the 19' in cold weather dry camping so I headed up to Manning Park, about 120 kilometres east of Chilliwack, this week. Dian didn't want to come as she hates cold nights and I am afraid I don't offer much warmth the way I used to. The days were sunny, in the mid teens, but once the sun set the cold came in rapidly. The campfire burned out around 8:30 PM and I went inside. I had a sleeping bag insert which is a great asset if you don't want to go through the contortions and gyrations of making the bed. On top of that I added a thick comforter and topped that off with a down-filled sleeping bag. I awoke around 3AM and checked the temperature. It was 3 degrees celsius in the trailer. When I got up around 6AM it was 1 degree. I turned on the furnace and crawled back into bed to wait for the temperature to rise.
There was a little frost on the ground but luckily all the water lines were functional.
Not wanting to press my luck for another night I headed home.
Some pictures are on my blog; Focused on Fauna (and a little flora)
I have the extra insulation package but no foam insulation on the bottom.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:12 PM   #2
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We were up at Mule Deer Campground (Manning Park) for one night on Sept 6. It was nice during the day. At night it got a bit chilly but I wore my fashionable night cap (buff).

I think you had it chillier then we did.

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Old 09-29-2016, 10:16 PM   #3
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Okay, I'm going to stop complaining that it is chilly in my house at 71!

How quickly did the heater get it up to warm?
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I hit frost last night in the Cascades and turned on the furnace, it was warm within 10 minutes.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:39 PM   #5
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We love the furnace in our 21- nice and quiet. Our Casita had one that worked equally well, but sounded like a express train coming thru-. Quite the difference. I haven't found anything to complain about except the Escape is harder to modify because everything is tucked in neatly and hidden.
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Older posts/threads have indicated camping with water in the pipes is OK below freezing as long as temps go +'ve in the daylight. I was fine to about -7C or so last year.
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I wanted to try out the 19' in cold weather dry camping so I headed up to Manning Park, about 120 kilometres east of Chilliwack, this week. Dian didn't want to come as she hates cold nights and I am afraid I don't offer much warmth the way I used to. The days were sunny, in the mid teens, but once the sun set the cold came in rapidly. The campfire burned out around 8:30 PM and I went inside. I had a sleeping bag insert which is a great asset if you don't want to go through the contortions and gyrations of making the bed. On top of that I added a thick comforter and topped that off with a down-filled sleeping bag. I awoke around 3AM and checked the temperature. It was 3 degrees celsius in the trailer. When I got up around 6AM it was 1 degree. I turned on the furnace and crawled back into bed to wait for the temperature to rise.
There was a little frost on the ground but luckily all the water lines were functional.
Not wanting to press my luck for another night I headed home.
Some pictures are on my blog; Focused on Fauna (and a little flora)
I have the extra insulation package but no foam insulation on the bottom.
enjoyed the pics and commentary on your blog...so glad to not be a salmon...and thanks for the cold weather report for your Escape..plans for a similar 2017 setup as yours with extra insulation and no underside foam.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:47 PM   #8
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Around freezing is one thing and well below is another, to me, anyway. May have to open cabinets at night to get warm air to lines.
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Absolutely Cathy, but that is not what the OP ran into.
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Old 09-29-2016, 11:21 PM   #10
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Bobbie15; It took about 15 minutes for it to get to 15 degrees celsius.
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Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.

He is on the right with a hiking partner; we met them at McKenzie Pass near Sisters, OR earlier this month.
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Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.
I'm so impressed with anyone who does the Pacific Crest...especially if one drags a trailer along.

Truly... I am impressed with that accomplishment.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:10 AM   #13
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Hi Len, Thank you for your stunning photographs! I live in Juneau, AK and the Fall bird migration has really started .... everyday I see new birds passing by my feeder. This morning there was an interesting article on NPR about White Pelicans showing up in Puget Sound (think they were talking about the Skagit River delta.... 200 miles north of their normal range.


I think having an Escape is the perfect platform to slow down and look deeper than the surface to 'discover' all kinds of fascinating wildlife.


Thank you again for your wonderful photography,


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Our son Eric is finishing the last leg of the Pacific Crest Trail which terminates at E.C. Manning Park. If you see him approach it is because the trailer is familiar.

He is on the right with a hiking partner; we met them at McKenzie Pass near Sisters, OR earlier this month.
A few years ago we gave a ride to 4 hikers who had just finished the Trail. They had been walking for months. We took them as far as Hope, Bc where they went straight to the bar.
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Hi Len, Thank you for your stunning photographs! I live in Juneau, AK and the Fall bird migration has really started .... everyday I see new birds passing by my feeder. This morning there was an interesting article on NPR about White Pelicans showing up in Puget Sound (think they were talking about the Skagit River delta.... 200 miles north of their normal range.


I think having an Escape is the perfect platform to slow down and look deeper than the surface to 'discover' all kinds of fascinating wildlife.


Thank you again for your wonderful photography,


Tom
Thanks Tom. That is what I like about the Escape. I can hook up and camp for a night or 2 without a lot of preparation. Might take off next week to for a couple of nights depending on the weather.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:50 AM   #16
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We were up at Mule Deer Campground (Manning Park) for one night on Sept 6. It was nice during the day. At night it got a bit chilly but I wore my fashionable night cap (buff).

I think you had it chillier then we did.

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Hi Larry. I might have to get one of those buffs if I camp in these cold nights. I have always wanted to "drop my buff" and merge with another tribe.
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A few years ago we gave a ride to 4 hikers who had just finished the Trail. They had been walking for months. We took them as far as Hope, Bc where they went straight to the bar.
Hi Len & Dian- they call folks like you Trail Angels You wouldn't believe how many are out there and what they do for these hikers. In Agua Dulce near Lancaster, CA there is a place called Hiker Heaven where PCT hikers can pitch their tents in someone's backyard and have their laundry done while they are fed- all for free! Other random acts of kindness abound for these folks and for those willing to share a ride for them back to trail after picking up packages of food or gear you can often hear some amazing tales.
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Wow! Stunning photos.
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Hi Len & Dian- they call folks like you Trail Angels You wouldn't believe how many are out there and what they do for these hikers.
Nice to hear this is happening on the PCT. Same thing on the Appalachian Trail. My father did 2 months (NJ to NH) and encountered many acts of kindness. People gave him food, let him borrow a vehicle to go into town, or allowed him to stay on their property or in their home. We met someone at one of the trailheads and got his number. A little later in the trip my father needed some supplies and I mailed them to his house and this man drove north and delivered the items to my father at a road crossing. Thankfully the people that have a love and respect for the outdoors are usually also very nice.
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