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Old 06-12-2011, 05:53 PM   #21
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Re: Honda EU2000i and Dometic Penguin A/C with SmartStart

Wow!

Makes me want to order air conditioning just to follow your instructions to install the SmartStart

You should contract your services to overseas manufacturers to provide assembly instructions. If you can do SmartStart you can probably do a BBQ!

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Old 06-12-2011, 09:37 PM   #22
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As someone who's electrically dyslexic, I am beyond impressed. Winnipeg, huh. When's your next trip south of the border, and how much do you charge?

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Old 06-12-2011, 10:16 PM   #23
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As someone who's electrically dyslexic, I am beyond impressed. Winnipeg, huh. When's your next trip south of the border, and how much do you charge?

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Old 06-13-2011, 01:00 AM   #24
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Yup, a shocking condition. I know you'll get a charge out of that bad pun.

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Hi: All...I'm dyslectric too...but I always have parts leftover as well!!! Alf
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:52 PM   #26
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Re: Honda EU2000i and Dometic Penguin A/C with SmartStart

Honda recommends not running at capacity for more than about a half hour, Doesn't this A/C run at capacity once it's started? Is the smart start just for amp draw for starting? and has no effect with Amp draw once it's running? Do I understand this right, Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:03 PM   #27
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Honda recommends not running at capacity for more than about a half hour, Doesn't this A/C run at capacity once it's started? Is the smart start just for amp draw for starting? and has no effect with Amp draw once it's running? Do I understand this right, Thanks in advance.
You are correct, the SmartStart is only for starting. Once started, the air conditioner only draws 10 amps with the compressor running and the fan on high speed (the spec sheet says 12.3 amps max but I measured 10 amps in actual operation). The Honda EU2000i is rated at 13.3 amps continuous (1600 watts, 1.6 kVA) so there is capacity to spare. I can't imagine a 11,000 BTU air air conditioner running for more than half an hour in a small trailer, and the cool down time between cycles can only be good for the generator, but it is not necessary. I also checked my manual and I didn't see any warnings about not running at capacity for an extended time although they may have added it for more recent models.
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:26 AM   #28
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Re: Honda EU2000i and Dometic Penguin A/C with SmartStart

Would you happen to know if the converter is also charging the batteries the moment you plug in the generator to the trailer? I wondered if that Amp draw would also be added to the generator total while the A/C is running. I was thinking in terms of boondocking and living in a hot climate, and being cautious since the generator is an expensive piece of equipment. I was wondering if the 10 amps in actual operation was measured from the AC only or the generator plug. Thanks.
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:21 PM   #29
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Re: Honda EU2000i and Dometic Penguin A/C with SmartStart

The 10 amp current reading was for the air conditioner only and was measured just before the shore power enters the breaker panel. The converter charges the batteries as soon as it gets power, so I turned off the circuit breaker to my converter/charger while I was doing the test. I don't know how much current the converter that comes with the trailer draws, and I have already replaced mine with a different one so I can't even go and measure it. I would guess that it is around 6 amps when charging a totally dead battery and then tapering off as the battery gets charged. Since, as you pointed out, the combined load of the converter working at maximum and running the air conditioner would exceed the generator's capacity, it would seem prudent to let the generator charge the battery until it switches from bulk mode to absorption mode before starting the air conditioner.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:37 PM   #30
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It's been too cold to give it a proper test with the generator. I did plug the trailer into an outlet and recorded a current draw of 10A at max cooling at high fan speed, which only proves that I installed the SmartStart correctly as it says nothing about the starting current. The real test will come on a really hot day when the air conditioner is running for a long time and then cycles. The instructions say to "Allow the SmartStart 5-10 start cycles to optimize itself" and I look forward to watching it learn. I will report back after I have given it a proper test on a hot day with the generator.
We had a nice hot day today so I hooked the generator up to the trailer to see how the SmartStart would perform. I was disappointed to discover that if the generator is in ECO mode, the air conditioner compressor won't start. The generator gives a good grunt and starts to speed up but before it gets up to full power, the air conditioner quits trying to start. After a few minutes the compressor tries to start again but once again fails. The good news is that with ECO mode turned off, the air conditioner starts perfectly every time and the generator doesn't even strain. Once the compressor is started, I can switch the generator to ECO mode and the rpm drops and the air conditioner keeps running until it cycles again. Considering how quickly the air conditioner cools the trailer (I could freeze fish in there), being able to use the ECO mode on the generator would be a real fuel saver and would minimize the generator noise. For now, it is quite useable as it is, but I will continue to pursue the matter.
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