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Old 10-29-2013, 02:17 PM   #11
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Does anyone make a winter ST tire? I was just looking after reading this thread and don't see any.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:34 PM   #12
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If there is really heavy snow the Siskyous and the Grapevine will be closed without chains so don't worry. 4WD can be OK but there is no allowance for snow tires. It would be extremely rare for either to be closed for more than a day so I just wouldn't stress about it.

Says I who am stressing about the possibility of snow on my way up and back to Chilliwack next week. But I do know some good camping spots on both sides of the mountains so oh, well.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:39 PM   #13
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Thanks Robert,
Excuse my lack of knowledge about BC weather and year round RV opportunities. We only get the bad weather news about the northwest and what is heading our way.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:30 PM   #14
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There are no winter-specific Special Trailer (ST) tires to my knowledge; however, there are many other tires suitable for trailer service, and many of them are winter tires.

Forum caution: the use of non-ST tires on trailers has proven to be highly controversial in other forums, and perhaps should be avoided in this thread, focusing instead on the winter tire idea.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:32 PM   #15
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Trailer tires are designed for being pulled straight, whereas vehicle tires are designed for traction.
Jim, my trailer takes the same corners and brakes at the same rate as the tow vehicle that's pulling it... doesn't yours? True, the trailer doesn't need drive traction, but neither does one end of my tug. I assume that Jim meant "motor vehicle"... trailers are vehicles too.

Trailers with brakes need the same cornering and braking traction as the rear of a front-wheel-drive car or van. When passing through winter conditions, the trailer is affected the same way by the same road conditions. I haven't used snow tires on only the front of a car since my first winter of driving my first front-drive car, and I would not consider doing it again. I wouldn't take a trailer into real winter conditions without tires that would be at least adequate for the tug in the same conditions.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:54 PM   #16
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When you drive your vehicle without the trailer, you do not drive it the same as you would when towing. That is my guess as to when the difference in tires really kicks in. Trailer tires are not subjected to the typical driving of a TV's tires when not towing.
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:19 PM   #17
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There are no winter-specific Special Trailer (ST) tires to my knowledge; however, there are many other tires suitable for trailer service, and many of them are winter tires.

Forum caution: the use of non-ST tires on trailers has proven to be highly controversial in other forums, and perhaps should be avoided in this thread, focusing instead on the winter tire idea.

Brian I'm confused by this - if there are no ST winter tires and the use of non-ST tires is controversial (and I just searched and it sure is!! LOL) then if we are focusing on winter tires on a trailer - would they not then have to BE non-ST? I feel like I've trapped myself in circular logic...
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:27 PM   #18
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Straight tracking most important?

On a tangent here, but Buroloak pointed out that BC has a land area bigger than Texas, but I didn't realize that it's one-third larger -- 944,735 km squared to 696, 241 km squared. Even folks who live in BC don't realize that the northern-seeming city of Prince George is actually in the southern half of BC geographically.

Regarding snow tires on trailers, wouldn't the most desirable quality in a trailer tire be that it tracks straight, even on ice or snow, and especially when braking?
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:45 PM   #19
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... if there are no ST winter tires and the use of non-ST tires is controversial (and I just searched and it sure is!! LOL) then if we are focusing on winter tires on a trailer - would they not then have to BE non-ST?
Yes, a winter tire would not be ST. I'm suggesting that we keep this discussion to the use of winter tires on a trailer, knowing that they would not be ST but not getting into that part now.
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Regarding snow tires on trailers, wouldn't the most desirable quality in a trailer tire be that it tracks straight, even on ice or snow, and especially when braking?
I agree... and that makes the best choice for icy and snowy roads a winter tire.

Modern winter tires can work very well on dry pavement (if care is taken with the tread pattern, and the high wear rate is acceptable as originally suggested), so one could work year-round. Many people who get to spring with winter tires that don't have enough tread left for another winter, continue to run them through the spring and summer to use them up. They work fine; that's what I did with the WRs on my Focus.
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