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Old 08-28-2009, 01:19 AM   #11
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

The following is a excerpt from this posting in a boating forum:

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Go to the grocery store (don't worry about taking your boat, that will come later). These places have huge lines of trailer simulators. Grab a "cart" and hold it from the "front" or "wrong" end. In order to do this with the most reality, your going to want to hold it "behind your back". This set up will respond (surprisingly) just like a boat trailer when moved.
I have been searching for a computer simulation for backing up a trailer, but cannot find one.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:52 AM   #12
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

Ron, THIS one from my link above is not too bad.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:27 AM   #13
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

I have an idea that is IMHO more realistic than a computer simulation: Take a farm toy tractor with functioning steering wheel and a single-axle trailer attached to it. Back up with that, by just using the steering wheel. The toy rig will behave EXACTLY like the real one. It is fun playing with that, and it is seriously the way how I learned it before stepping on the real tractor...
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:59 AM   #14
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

Jim, thanks for that link, because the one you gave earlier did not work for me.

My problem is using mirrors. I have worked on enough loading docks to understand the physics of backing up a trailer, but I get completely boggled by mirrors. Also, I lose track of where I am, and get misaligned. The end of the trailer is in the right position, but everything is pointed 30 degrees off.

Further, Kathleen and I are going to need to improve our communication. Before our next trip, I am going to try to convince her to spend an hour or so practising in the local rec centre parking lot.

I do wish that there was a first-person back-up simulator where you have to use your mirrors. Too bad I don't have a couple of years free to develop my own.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:06 PM   #15
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

Ron, I only use mirrors. Having driven lots of different types and sizes of vehicles and trailers, learning to use the mirrors works best, by far. I do realize there will be a learning curve.

I very rarely let my wife give directions, instead I opt to go look for myself first if I can't well enough from driving up. If you have a person guiding you, it really helps if they understand the mechanics of reversing with a trailer. Directions should always be given in the direction you want the trailer to move, not they way you want the driver to turn the wheel. Pointing with no hand movement signifies a slight correction in direction, a simple 'wagging' of the hand means a bit more correction, and signaling while bending at the elbow means to correct hard. The person guiding should always stand right in line of the drivers side mirror too.

I had never heard of using a toy truck/tractor and trailer before, but if it has working steering, it would be a good practice tool.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:19 PM   #16
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

Thanks for your good words, everybody! Your advice has helped to build confidence. We've had 14 days in the 17A now, and survived three right-hand back-ins to stalls -- the last one in a park where the trailer had to end up at a right angle to the road, and the stall was so tight there was very little "play" from side to side, and you couldn't keep the car in it. That one took fifteen minutes, aided by two different people giving different directions -- shades of "The Long, Long Trailer" -- but we didn't mash anybody's rhododendrons. A consolation was watching somebody take 30 minutes to park a 50' Class A in the same park, with much chuffing of air brakes and revving of the diesel engine . . .
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:29 PM   #17
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Re: Good places around Chilliwack for a neophyte to practice maneuvering a 17A

There is a Safeway a couple of blocks from the main highway. It has a large, mostly empty, parking lot. Be careful though; it is also a major shortcut for cars avoiding the light. Most of them were polite about driving around me sitting in the middle of their "road".
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:32 PM   #18
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Very interesting information on backing up a trailer. I haven't driven a trailer in over 40 years so consider me a newbie. While I hope to get onto the order list for 2017 on April 1st I have a question as to how one takes turns going forward with there trailer. My hope to to go all in and get a 21. Thanks for any information you have.
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I do wish that there was a first-person back-up simulator where you have to use your mirrors. Too bad I don't have a couple of years free to develop my own.
If you develop one, I'm sure someone will ask Escape to add it to the options list.

I suggest going down to UHaul and renting an enclosed trailer some afternoon. Take it out to an empty parking lot, bring some cones, and practice backing up and driving in tight quarters for a few hours. You won't be able to see behind the enclosed trailer without using the mirrors
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Practice in the ETI parking lot! When we picked up our used 19, I installed a prodigy RF on the spot. Never towed anything in my life. A few test runs in the front parking lot and I was good to go. To be honest it was pretty nerve racking at first, but the good thing about Chilliwack is there is plenty of space and not much traffic.
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