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Old 02-13-2015, 06:18 PM   #121
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Reace, new design is MUCH better than losing the drawers, we love having them in our 21. Besides, at 3 inches higher those who set their televisions on top will have an easier viewing angle from the bed!

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:20 PM   #122
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We won't have a 21 either , but that is a nicely balanced look .....

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:20 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by steve dunham View Post
Jim ,heat loss calculations assume that the structure is at the interior design temp and all the heat source is designed to do is supply enough BTUs to maintain the existing temp. When we left home last year it was 18 deg F below zero and when we arrived at our first campsite it was still 8 to 10 deg F below zero . Everything in the trailer was at 8 to 10 below .( Same problem on our trip home ) Our heater was sufficient to overcome the heat loss but had little left over to warm up the trailer's contents .When we went to bed several hours later you could still see your breath in the trailer.
I believe that the Escapes furnace is adequate for its' design temp .
I was seriously looking at asking Reece if the furnace could be upgraded to the 16,000 BTU model .We have a memory foam mattress in our trailer and its like sleeping on a rock when the mattress is cold.
Again I believe what your experience is with the present furnace but there is a big difference between "Below Freezing " and 18 below zero . For most of the forum members this is not an issue but I would rather have a furnace that is more than adequate than one that is barely adequate . AGAIN I AM NOT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH YOU
Steve, have you considered towing with the heat on and installing a supplemental electric heater? With temperatures that low, I'd like to have electric also as a back up in case of propane issues.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:26 PM   #124
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Thank you so much Reace! I understand that to people coming from a smaller trailer or not needing to host grandchildren, the Escape's cupboard and drawer space is more than adequate, but coming from a Nash 19 foot (cabin measurement) with more space (but heavier and leak prone) we need every cubic inch and already gave up some of this space for the range. We are happy to get one of the two drawers back.

This option has our vote. As to the grill, my wife actually likes the black grill, but if others prefer a different colour we are fine with it.

Kudos to you for taking the time to give us an option to reclaim a drawer. The 3 extra inches in cupboard height won't be a problem for us, as we will use the counter top for placing things related to the bedroom area (iPhone, keys, etc.)

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:55 PM   #125
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I don't see a thing wrong with that plus furnace is now much more centered in the trailer. As for being in there in below zero weather, I will pass.
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:11 PM   #126
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One issue to deal with, with a higher output furnace would be more cycling. With a higher output, it would heat up quicker, so you would have more cycles, and more fan time with the air clearing stage.

For me, the noise that bothers me most, is when the contacts for the fan click on and off, once the fan is blowing steady I am not as bothered. (Still wish these things were WAY more quiet though)

My HVAC guy summed it up well for me, saying that the most efficient sized furnace is one with an output that would run constantly on the coldest day of the year, while still maintaining an adequate temperature. We are constantly changing out old home furnaces with ones that have much lower outputs, and are still heating the house fine.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:49 PM   #127
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I am not in the market for a 21, so take this for what it's worth... The loss of a drawer, for me, would be a minor annoyance. But as I understand it, that cabinet is right in front of you when you walk in the door. And that furnace is definitely, to me, an eye sore. Were I shopping for a 21, it would affect my decision (though admitedly not by a huge amount; still, if I'm spending that much money, I will get picky).

If I decided to buy a trailer with said furnace, I'd be looking for a way to cover it up. Paint might help, but I too would be concerned about longevity. Maybe a metal grill? Brass and oak work well together, though I don't know the expense of a brass cover.

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Old 02-13-2015, 10:08 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by dbailey View Post
Maybe a metal grill? Brass and oak work well together, though I don't know the expense of a brass cover.
Yep. See my post #98. They have many styles, like these for example. Sure look better than that plastic grill, although like you, I have no idea what they charge.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:19 PM   #129
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I had missed that post... But those are cast -- gorgeous, but rather overkill for the purpose.

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Old 02-13-2015, 10:24 PM   #130
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I'm happier with the new configuration.

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