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A while Jim showed us low-pressure plumbing for his Spitfire grill.
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Robert et al, here are a couple shots I took today of my connections to the BBQ. A lot of it would have to do with what you have on the end of the hose.
Attachment 9688
Attachment 9689
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Some of us have Porta Chef grills that can be converted (without replacing the control).
As I noted earlier...
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Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Yes, Jim's adapter combination could be simplified, but the section attached to the inlet to the control would likely take two adapters with a pipe thread between them using anything that could be found in a catalog, and it looks like there are only three adapters (and thus two pipe thread connections) in this case.
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From local suppliers I ended up with a three-piece adapter assembly on the grill, too, but with different parts. Here are the parts - the 1/4" pipe thread joint is already screwed together (suppliers of these fittings often do this at no charge, and do it well). The part on the left has a female 3/8" SAE flare socket on each side.
Before modification, the hose comes off the back of the control, and ends in a regulator intended to be screwed into a tank valve... but I use it on the end of a high-pressure hose from the RV's propane tank.
I took off the hose (easy - it's a SAE flare just like Jim's Spitfire and many others) and screwed on the adapters (again easy - no more pipe threads, just two flare connections).
The hose gets the connector with valve and a couple of adapters. I included the elbow so that the hose hangs down instead of being forced to bend.
Of course, if I end up with a low-pressure supply from a trailer, I can just use a low-pressure quick-connect extension hose to connect the trailer's port to the grill (the hose with regulator would not be needed).
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05-24-2016, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ice-breaker
I really like my Spitfire 180 grill. However, ever since it was new I have had some difficulties where it has not heated up to as high of temperatures as would be required to properly cook foods. Also, I have found that on mine, the sensitivity of the low pressure control valve is very poor, with very little temperature adjustment possible with the valve. I have also had the supply valve "stick" and become "hard to turn" at times.
Two possible solutions come to mind for these two issues. The cold temperature issue may possibly be resolved by playing around with the size of the opening on the makeup air port (?) near the burner (there is an adjustment screw). I will play around with that a bit once the weather warms up. It is possible that the current valve is also the cause of my low temperature issues. I am thinking that I likely have a defective low pressure valve. I am hesitant about just replacing the current one with the same valve from Dickinson and have been looking for a replacement valve online. So far I have not come up with a replacement that seems suitable. I may just end up asking Dickinson for another and seeing how it works.
Anyone else have any issues with the low pressure valve or BBQ temperatures?
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Ok, it has been a while but I think that this is now resolved:
I initially tried a competitor's low pressure valve and attempted to jury rig it to the Spitfire grill, but was totally unsuccessful in finding proper fittings to do a good job mating the two. Failure #1.
I completely disassembled the low pressure valve and fittings provided with my Spitfire grill by Dickinson and gave them a thorough cleaning, and then reassembly. I was hoping that there may have been a fragment of something stuck inside that was impeding the flow of propane to the grill. No such luck, performance was still poor. Failure #2.
I then gave up experimenting and placed an order into Dickinson for a replacement low pressure valve for my grill. They offered to include a larger orifice assembly with the valve which they indicated should increase the propane flow into the burners and increase the heat. I didn't know this option existed but gladly accepted. I made the buy and they sent it out by mail. When my order arrived, I replaced the old valve and orifice with the new ones, and last weekend took the grill with me on a 2-day camping trip in the rain on the May long weekend. I only used it for BBQ'ing during one meal, but it worked really well and it appears that my low grill temperature issues may be resolved. I will continue to use it and can hopefully enjoy continued trouble free operations throughout this summer. PROBLEM SOLVED
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05-24-2016, 06:22 PM
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05-24-2016, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by J Mac
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Yeah, but you quoted the list price from Dickinson. They will beat that by a lot. Many places carry it for $300ish CAD. The Weber does work though.
I would caution JC Ayer for a place to buy. They carry zero stock, and it can take weeks for things to come in. I bought a bunch of tools, the first part of the order arrived in a couple weeks, the remainder took well over a month.
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05-24-2016, 06:46 PM
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I gave my Dickinson Spitfire 180 to my son-in-law along with a baby Weber.
He couldn't get the Weber hot ( I think it may be the regulator ) so fired up the Dickinson. It got hot, so he's happy. Controlling heat was my problem with it. I tried to cook a half chicken and pretty much incinerated it. Tried raising it above the grill with an aluminum pan, but that didn't work either.
I'm now using a Napoleon two burner so I can cook indirect when I want. It's not that compact, but has a tall lid for roasts and whole chicken.
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05-24-2016, 09:22 PM
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I went to Dickinson's in Surrey last Wednesday and paid $184 for a "scratch and dent" Spitfire grill. You can hardly see the scratch. At the time they had two of them so maybe there is one still left.
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05-24-2016, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Yeah, but you quoted the list price from Dickinson. They will beat that by a lot. Many places carry it for $300ish CAD. The Weber does work though.
I would caution JC Ayer for a place to buy. They carry zero stock, and it can take weeks for things to come in. I bought a bunch of tools, the first part of the order arrived in a couple weeks, the remainder took well over a month.
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at 3/4 the price, I'll find room for the Weber.
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05-24-2016, 09:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redtaco99
I went to Dickinson's in Surrey last Wednesday and paid $184 for a "scratch and dent" Spitfire grill. You can hardly see the scratch. At the time they had two of them so maybe there is one still left.
Jim
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Great deal!
That scratch will soon be blended with all the ones you add.
Not only better than a Weber, cheaper too!
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05-24-2016, 09:42 PM
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Cheaper yet, I was going to give my Dickinson away at the swap, but then the son-in-law decided he wanted it. Snooze you lose.
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05-24-2016, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gbaglo
Cheaper yet, I was going to give my Dickinson away at the swap, but then the son-in-law decided he wanted it. Snooze you lose.
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Dang, we are planning on buying one for my daughter sometime soon. She likes using ours. She made some great pizza from scratch on it using a stone.
I thought Dickinson replaced your regulator, no?
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05-24-2016, 10:36 PM
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They did replace the regulator, but I still couldn't get the heat down. I followed all the instructions for adjusting air and fuel, but couldn't get what I want.
We'll see how the Napoleon goes. I've had success with a couple roast chickens.
My brother-in-law sells BBQs, hot tubs, fire places and he has a Napoleon. He hates the ignition system on his ( full size ). So, we shall see.
Steveston Marine has the Dickinson ( NEW DESIGN ) on for $369.
http://www.stevestonmarine.com/dicki...arch=Dickinson
The description is entertaining if nothing else.
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05-24-2016, 10:43 PM
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This Napoleon has two burners, doesn't it? There are a few circumstances that might be handy. I know it is on a large surface for sure.
I have a big ass Napoleon at home, which is now 18 years old. For the most part it is in great shape, but I do have to rebuild the igniter, and replace the burners.
I am off to buy a new one piece stone for ours. Just a few bucks at the tile store for an 18x18 honed travertine tile, and will cut it to size. I don't like carrying the weight, but it sure does make baking easy.
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05-24-2016, 10:45 PM
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Yeah, new 8 years ago, and priced higher than most other resellers.
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05-24-2016, 10:50 PM
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Yup. My 'portable' Napoleon has two burners. I do a lot of indirect grilling. Ribs, chicken etc. I like being able to keep stuff warm on the side that isn't lit while grilling on the other side.
Asparagus doesn't fall through the grill either.
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05-24-2016, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Yeah, new 8 years ago, and priced higher than most other resellers.
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Actually, I think it may have some new design elements. Don't know what they are though. I got mine on sale at Steveston for $280 when it was $430 at the factory. Factory told me to get it at Steveston.
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05-25-2016, 02:15 AM
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I have been folling this thread with a lot of interest. Im bringing two BBQ's. One a Camp Chef single burner with their grill box and a Char Broil X200 ...... yeah yeah I know Char Broil doesn't have the best reputation .... but I have one at home. Although originally I bought it to use with my trailer, I discovered how much I liked it .... even BBQ ing all winter. The Camp Chef I haven't used yet. I'm searching for the 'perfect outside cooker'.
I'll be interested in Glenn's 2 burner Napolean ...... I think I' d like the indirect heat. And Jim's Spitfire. Have always liked Dickenson products. Would like to see both.
I do like to eat ...... after I get last nights Opossum burned off the grill, I be ready to show you my grills. Looking for a learning experience.
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05-25-2016, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gbaglo
Actually, I think it may have some new design elements. Don't know what they are though. I got mine on sale at Steveston for $280 when it was $430 at the factory. Factory told me to get it at Steveston.
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06-05-2016, 09:15 AM
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Does anyone know if the Spitfire will fit in the 5.0TA outside front storage under bed?
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Does anyone know if the Spitfire will fit in the 5.0TA outside front storage under bed?
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After discussing with Reace, I know Alf fit his in with a slight inside flange trimming for the feet. I will be looking at doing the same thing. Maybe they could make it an inch taller?
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06-05-2016, 09:36 AM
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Yes, Alf cut a notch in the inside flange to slide it in, so it will fit.
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