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Old 05-15-2019, 12:39 PM   #81
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You might search the forum for “Ron in BC’s” nice discussion about how he used extruded polystyrene sheet insulation under his trailer aftermarket to insulate for shoulder season use. Should be able to accomplish this approach for a fraction of the cost of sprayed foam. Also can be removed for access to maintenance points.

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Old 05-15-2019, 02:38 PM   #82
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The main thing we do not like about the manual awning (besides looks and protection of the awning material) is that it interferes with the option of two windows if the awning is not open.

I have read the spray foam thread and like most of these options there seems to be advantages and disadvantages to having it. We plan to do a lot of camping in the fall and spring in the southern appalachians where we can get freezing nights from October to May so it seems like it would be helpful to us.

Your thoughts and opinions?
Just brainstorming here...since the manual awning arms release from the lower connection for a carport mode I'm wondering if they can be unlatched and rotated away from the trailer body just enough to allow the awning windows to operate fully. This would require something custom to be fabricated that would engage with the existing bracket on the trailer and the foot on the awning arm.

Regarding the under body foam I can say that we don't have it and have been in some pretty cold weather. It is much warmer than the Scamp wood floor was. We insulated that one similar to Ron's with 2" polystyrene and that is what we would do on the Escape if we found it necessary. I was just under a new 21 with spray foam and it looks like a daunting task if you ever need to work on something.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:38 PM   #83
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Drop the spray foam and the inverter and switch to pour over coffee.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:08 PM   #84
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Would definitely drop the inverter and if needed get a portable . We like the spray foam and after a dump valve repair didn't find it to be a big problem . Also like Ron 's installation . Definitely would not get the power awning . Be prepared for headaches with power awning We belong to other forums and simplicity is your friend not motors etc. Pat
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:26 PM   #85
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Do you expect to use the awning more for shade or for rain protection? For shade the power awning is hard to beat for convenience. For having the awning out in the rain a lot, the manual awning will function better.

You could always skip the inverter initially and if you found you really wanted an AC outlet you could add an inverter later, mounted under the dinette bench just like ETI does, with one outlet. Likewise if you forego the foam insulation and later decide you really want it, as others have said there are several ways to insulate under the trailer after the fact.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:42 PM   #86
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I agree that of the three, the inverter could be added later. I don't have any of the three ordered. In South Carolina I did not see the justification for the cost of added insulation. North Carolina could be a different story. Also for the cost I can extend an awning manually. Would like to have the power but if you're up against a budget wall.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:19 PM   #87
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Build sheet due date is approaching and we are over our budget.

Items we are considering dropping to save money are:
Inverter, Power Awning, Spray foam underneath. Of these three which one would you keep?

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We plan to do a lot of camping in the fall and spring in the southern appalachians where we can get freezing nights from October to May so it seems like it would be helpful to us.

Your thoughts and opinions?
The inverter would be the first thing to go. It can be installed easily anytime. We use the Melita pour over system for coffee.

You said you will be camping in the Appalachians. Does it rain there? It rains in Minnesota and we like to sit underneath the awning while it's raining, sometimes for days on end. If that is you, then skip the power awning. If you only want the awning for shade then skip the insulation. We like the manual awning. We have yet to open the window in our bath and can open the window an inch next to the awning arm. We also chose awning windows, so we have a rear window nearby to open, plus we can open the kitchen window. Not being able to open a couple of windows doesn't bother us.

Camping in shoulder seasons with temps in the teens and 20's, the underfloor insulation was a no-brainer. I do know our floors are not radiating cold at 15 degrees like our previous Scamp and Casita did. Yep, the floors are warm.

So it comes down to, "Is the power awning really worth $1,075 to me?"

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Old 05-15-2019, 07:22 PM   #88
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I agree that of the three, the inverter could be added later. I don't have any of the three ordered. In South Carolina I did not see the justification for the cost of added insulation. North Carolina could be a different story. Also for the cost I can extend an awning manually. Would like to have the power but if you're up against a budget wall.
Are you never going to camp anywhere else ? Or just stay in South Carolina ? Pat
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:11 PM   #89
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My husband swears by his cowboy coffee. A small coffee pot on the stove, he starts heating three cups of water, grinds beans and pours two scoops of ground coffee into the pot and leaves it on a low boil for a few minutes, takes it off the stove and pours a little cold water down the spout, lets the grounds settle, and pours his cup of coffee. He says it’s the best coffee there is. Maybe your wife could try it. I think it took a little trial and error for Tom to perfect it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:16 PM   #90
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We are going to try an espresso maker on the stove. We make lattes and mocha cafe on occasion at home so it should work for us.

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