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Old 04-20-2014, 05:14 PM   #21
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Would have to agree with Dave regarding trailer choice. As it turns out we were lucky in a lot of ways buying our 17B used. Thought I wanted tandem axels but Tammy said we couldn't pull the '19 with our Murano. Got the 17B and towed about 3000 miles and decided we wanted a different TV and got a Highlander V6 AWD. Big diff and average 17mpg. We prefer the 17B as it fits us and has great flexibility without its permanent bed. Many make the double dinette a permanent bed, but you can change your mind. Fits in our driveway easily too. Went on a solo trip recently and slept in the single and kept the double open to stretch out on to read. The Santa Fe would probably be OK, but IMHO its probably at the top end of its tow rating as we found out with the Nissan. Does your TV have factory tow package?
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:00 PM   #22
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The Santa Fe would probably be OK, but IMHO its probably at the top end of its tow rating as we found out with the Nissan. Does your TV have factory tow package?
Depending upon model years the Santa Fe has about the same power and capacity as the Murano.

I agree. "OK" is good enough for a trip or 2 to the local campgrounds but not for extended tours.

The Santa Fe has the factory tow package - a transmission cooler and a bit of wiring , but its rear suspension is soft. I can't see it comfortably towing anywhere close to its rated 3500 lbs. or more importantly close to its rated 350 lb. tongue weight limit.

Thanks for the input.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:34 PM   #23
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Not saying you should, but my buddy tows his 19 with a 2009 Santa Fe V6 with tow package and uses a WDH. I tow my 17B with a RAV4 V6 with tow package and WDH.
For him to upgrade his tow capacity, he has to move to the larger 7-passenger Santa Fe. For me to upgrade, I would have to move to 7-passenger Highlander.
I'm thankful that I'm not in the market because I don't see anything out there that appeals to me. I want small and fuel-efficient for every day driving, but capable of towing.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:30 PM   #24
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Here's a photo of our "kitchen".
Counter extension is to left of sink, which has the cover in use.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:59 PM   #25
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Is that factory fold up counter or did you customize it?
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:01 AM   #26
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Factory counter. It folds down, but we just leave it up.
PS. don't lean heavily on it. I bent the support arm. Easy to straighten it, but I won't do it again.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:27 AM   #27
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Agree with Dave. Best advice we ever got when looking for a trailer. 'Don't try and get a trailer to fit your tug. You won't be happy in the long run. Get the trailer you want and then get the vehicle to tow it.'
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:12 PM   #28
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We also had a Chalet before we went to an Escape 17B. Loved the Chalet but the Escape is much more comfortable. We tow with a 6 cyl. Tacoma and find the towing to be very comfortable. Although towing was okay at first I found that a WD hitch just feels better.
We exited Death Valley on a winding, steep (9%) grade, two lane road and the Tacoma did fine. We did have to go down to second gear so the brakes would not overheat.
We have dual 6V batteries and they hold up for 2-3 days, more with portable solar. The dual propane and 6V don't seem to harm the towing capabilities.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:51 PM   #29
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Dave&Kathie have a great TV/trailer combo, and it is striking to compare specs for V6 Highlander to a V8 4Runner. Lots of difference in torque and hp/rpm rating. I don't think I would want to pull another 1000 lbs. with a Highlander. Tow rating is 5000 vs. 7300 as well.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:17 PM   #30
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For what it is worth, we tow our 17b with a Sienna (3500 lbs towing capacity), and have no complaints about the towing experience. We use a WDH. While we haven't been on the road like Jon V, we just returned from a five week, 4000 mile, trip to the south eastern US. Late last summer it was 5 weeks in New England and the Maritime Provinces. Last Spring it was a month in the Southwest. So certainly more than a trip or two to the local campgrounds.

We leave the rear dinette made up as a bed. Since my princess thought she could feel the pea under the mattress, we put a 3" memory foam topper on the cushions. As a result, the factory flip Down shel extension couldn't be raised and lowered easily. So I modified it to work with a couple of Rubbermaid shelf brackets. Now it comes completely off the end of the counter and we store it under the front dinette. The princess likes it better this way,

We haven't had a problem with counter space. We often cook outside, but when cooking inside we are able to get by using the stove cover, sink cover and counter extension. There is only room for one person in the galley, so the other one sits at the table and relaxes during prep time.
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