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Old 04-22-2014, 06:48 PM   #31
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Go with the 17B, we have had ours since 2006, been to the Baha, across Canada and South to the Gulf Coast. Bed permanantly set up, memory foam topper was a great improvement. I built a cover for the 3 burner stove & with sink cover there is plenty of room. Washing dishes, we just put a piece of plastic on the bed to protect the bedding. We camp in national or provincial/state parks for up to 6-7 days with 6V dual batteries, no LED's, no generator or solar cells. Keep it simple, use battery powered LED reading lights. It's all good in a 17B, we pull it with an older Nissan Pathfinder and WDH (mostly to get weight off the rear springs)
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:15 PM   #32
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@Escapist - Like your style. We have gone with LEDs and two series 31 12 volts which in retrospect are more than we need. We beefed up the charging wire so we can recharge while driving only a few hours. We're good for at least 10 days and also have solars which are largely redundant. Fresh water is our weakest link.

The thinking du jour is to suck it up, buy a light truck and go with the 5th wheel. The mileage numbers are as good or better than our '09 Santa Fe.

BTW LEDs on amazon are really affordable.
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:47 AM   #33
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I have been comparing these vehicles as prospective tow vehicles: Buick Enclave (4500#), Chevrolet Traverse (5200#), Nissan Pathfinder(5000#) and Hyundai Santa Fe XL (5000#). I rejected the Grand Cherokee, Highlander, Explorer and Pilot based on experience and reviews. I am leaning towards the XL as I have found the 09 model to be reliable, I like the dealership, it has a long warranty and it appears to offer the best bang for the buck. It has a maximum tongue weight of 500# (750 with wd)

I don't get any results when I search the forum for the XL. I would be interested in any experiences with this vehicle and a 17B or 19. I believe the XL model was introduced in the 2013 model year and replaced the Veracruz model. The earlier Santa Fe model (which I currently own) is rated at only 3500#.
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:09 AM   #34
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I saw the listed tow stats and was liking the Hyundai Santa Fe at first blush, and the good price. Went to a dealership to look it over and ask questions on towing. Got an X-Nay impression. Best to double-check on towing claims vs real world.

Jumped then to the Traverse/Acadia platform because of generous interior room.
In fact I bought a used Acadia but the dealer gave me a loaner truck while they prepped it. When they made me an offer I couldn't refuse I took the Silverado.
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:39 AM   #35
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Thank you Myron.

I spoke with a salesperson at the dealership and he didn't know much about the vehicle so I talked to the service manager who I have gotten to know of the past few years and got a good impression of the towing capacity from him. In fact he said the manufacturers low ball the numbers.

There is this real world experience posted on a Hyundai forum. First Tow of the Boat Complete! ~4300lbs - Hyundai Forums : Hyundai Forum This guy is pulling a 4300# boat trailer with dual axles. I can't tell if he is using wd.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:19 AM   #36
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Had a Buick Enclave. Didn't trust the sound of the trans at 55k and traded to a new Murano, which is 3500 tow rated. Ck out buick trans problems on web. traverse of course is same. Bought a 17B, and after a few months realized it wasn't really built to do extended towing. Bought a 2013 Highlander SE AWD w/oem hitch and its great. Average 17 mpg, and feels solid. Don't know anything about Hyundai except I don't see many being used to tow. See a lot of Toyotas and some Honda ridgelines. Good luck choosing.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:32 AM   #37
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... I rejected the Grand Cherokee, Highlander, Explorer and Pilot based on experience and reviews...
Your rejection of these vehicles as candidates for towing seems at odds with real life experience of many people on this site and elsewhere who have had very positive towing experiences with the GC, Highlander, and Pilot (don't know much about the Explorer).

I personally would not consider a Hyundai for towing, as there have been some very dissatisfied owners complaining about the poor performance and service of those vehicles.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:04 PM   #38
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Escape community's emphasis on safety appreciated

Reading the posts on that Hyundai forum makes me appreciate even more the quality of information posted on this forum, especially for the Escape posters' reliance on facts and best towing practices rather than rumour, wishful thinking, and "advice" from car dealers.

Here's a sample post on the Hyundai board from a fellow asked about the tow vehicle rear end sag that was evident in a photo of his rig: "Not real sure. The boat is pretty balanced on the trailer so I do not believe it to be too terrible."

The Toyota 4Runner forum I look at occasionally can be even worse when it comes to "advice" about towing. Over there, several posters believe that their personally assessed testosterone level somehow increases the towing capacity of their tugs.

I hope they all work out the physics of towing safely before someone's dream trip becomes a nightmare.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:06 PM   #39
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Here is previous discussion of Hyundai Santa Fe ( not XL, but basically the same ).
Hyundai Santa Fe as tow vehicle
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:52 PM   #40
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I remember reading that post, gb. The "not able to get parts" part is really what got my attention. Will never have that issue with my Silverado, even if it was made in Mexico.
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