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Old 05-06-2010, 07:44 PM   #1
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Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

(I thought I would post this as an FYI for any other Badger/Cheeseheads who buy a new Escape.) I went in to the local DMV office to get the license and title for our Escape 17B that we are picking up on the 21st of this month. I expected to walk out with the plate and registration as I always have in the past. But, a new DMV policy is that any foreign made vehicle new title and plate application has to be sent to the DMV headquarters in Madison by the local office. They said it will take at least 2 weeks to get the license and title now with this procedure. The service person made copies of all the paperwork for me and said that it should be no problem since I have paid all the fees, etc.

Since we are leaving for BC in less than 2 weeks, I should have gone in as soon as the ever efficient Tammy sent me the paperwork, but I was assuming it would be like all other new vehicle registrations I have done. I hope it all goes ok.

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Old 05-06-2010, 09:29 PM   #2
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Hi Eric,

Good to know that this is a new law for DMV. They are not very open about that. Their clerks who are dealing with the "customers" here in Madison seemingly don't know anything about this. I just went Wednesday to the DMV in Madison, and everybody there was flabbergasted about how to figure out taxes. That dude who was my clerk was asking everywhere. I was going in like you, assuming it would be as easy as registering a car and walking out with the plate. Instead they took the original certificate of origin, a copy of the Bill of Sale and my DMV application and gave it to the research unit department upstairs. Yes, two weeks at least I have to wait first for a bill telling me how much sales tax to pay... At DMV they recommended me to go to a car dealership to get a temporary tag. I went to where I got my car, and of course they just give temp tags to customers with new cars... DMV folks are really not very well informed I have the feeling. Hehe! A colleague of mine is married with a state trooper. I explained this situation to her, and she mentioned that I should be fine because I have the original bill of sale, insurance and the customs paperwork with me.

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Old 05-06-2010, 10:12 PM   #3
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Re: Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

I guess I beat you both to the punch and got my tags before the new regulations took effect or before the word got spread to the hinterland where I live in Wisconsin.

I just went in Monday and the clerk dutifully called Madison to find out what to do. The issue is calculating what you paid in US dollars as the bill of sale is in Canadian. Eric, for you with multiple payments that must have been fun. I had a check and a wire transfer. No records to speak of on the wire, plus the wire included delivery charges which I contend are not taxable. I knew it was going to be a big deal.

What saved my butt was the counter person. She took the problem over and used the exchange rate that was in effect when I made the down payment and said here is what you owe. I have to give her credit she solved the problem. Was it right? Probably not but at least we didn't have to take someone's time in the "research department" to get the tax to within 20 cents.

When it comes to sales taxes in Wisconsin they are aholes. The best story I heard was the Department of Revenue going after Midwest Express Airlines to get them to pay sales tax on drinks that were served while the plane was flying over Wisconsin. Needless to say it was thrown out in tax court.
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Hi: All... I thought we had it bad here in Ontario Canada. I can't wait till they start to ply our 15% Harmonized Taxes!!!
Fed+Provincial= 2 part har...money$$$ LOL Alf
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Re: Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

Gerda - I think that we will be fine with the paperwork we have as your friend told you. Also, since our 17's weigh less than 3000# we aren't even legally required to put license plates on them. The counter guy I worked with me did all he could to help me . I took in my receipts for my payments and he taxed me based on what I had actually paid. BUT he said that they would check over his stuff in Madison and maybe change things. It's not much fun going in and writing that $1400+ check for the license, title and taxes, but on the other hand I try to look at taxes as the dues we pay to live in a well functioning society, so I guess I just paid some of my dues!
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Hi:Wisc. Escapees...and all travelling to The Soo. for pickup...have a safe trip and good camping 8) . Alf
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Our Escape Debutante Ball is delayed by one day. I think Paul and Bob are still meeting in SSM tonight, staying in a hotel, but I decided to save the precious vacation day. Now I will be driving up tonight. I cannot wait, meeting with the guys and getting around to play with our Escapes! Eric, I get the impression every DMV is doing something else . I only paid registration/title/plate fee, but no taxes yet. Weird... But yes, we will be fine without plates. And on top, I have insurance with me already for Cafe Egg.
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Re: Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

And to think, last year at this time there wasn't a single Escape 17 anywhere in WI for me to view! At this rate we can soon we can have our own WI Escape convention!
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Re: Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

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Hi: All... I thought we had it bad here in Ontario Canada. I can't wait till they start to ply our 15% Harmonized Taxes!!!
Fed+Provincial= 2 part har...money$$$ LOL Alf
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15%.....why so high?
Man, I am loving Alberta more then ever, and glad we only pay the 5% taxes. Still, I think that is too much.

It sure sounds like quite the runaround at the Wisconsin DMV. I am sure it will all work out though, and you guys will be happy campers.
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Re: Wisconsin Escape Buyers - License and Title FYI

We had a similar experience with the TX DMV. We called 4 different people with the DMV beforehand and got 4 different answers to our questions regarding the registration process, paperwork & costs. It was quite frustrating that nobody was a "go to" person who could definitively provide reliable guidance.

Ultimately, we were able to get 30 day temp plates before our trip to pick up the trailer. Upon return to TX with Grasshopper, we had to take it to a designated Austin Police Officer who visually verified the VIN & a couple of other things and then completed a form that we had to take with us to the DMV along with the paper work Tammy provided. The DMV charged us registration fees as well as sales tax. They weren't sure how to do the tax so we proposed using the price paid on the bill of sale and the exchange rate from the date of payment. Fortunately they said it made sense and went with it so we finally got our permanent plates. Sure would've been easy if the DMV just had somebody who could make a decision.
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