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Old 09-25-2014, 11:04 AM   #21
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low point drains

Our oct. 2013 21' has two low point drains just inside the step, I don't plan on using them.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:12 AM   #22
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Jim, so does this mean that you don't add RV Antifreeze to your lines after you drain them with the low point drain?
Nope, after draining the water heater and fresh water tank, I open the low-point drain, and then all the valves in the trailer, and don't forget to hold the toilet valve open for a bit too. I also turn the water pump on for a few seconds too, to ensure it is drained. The only anti-freeze used gets poured into the sink and shower traps.

I too remember something to do with the toilet valve now used, in the reason that Escape no longer does the low-point drain. I will have to ask Reace the next time I see him.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:22 AM   #23
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Nope, after draining the water heater and fresh water tank, I open the low-point drain, and then all the valves in the trailer, and don't forget to hold the toilet valve open for a bit too. I also turn the water pump on for a few seconds too, to ensure it is drained. The only anti-freeze used gets poured into the sink and shower traps.

I too remember something to do with the toilet valve now used, in the reason that Escape no longer does the low-point drain. I will have to ask Reace the next time I see him.
I do the same with one further step. I pressurize the system with a bicycle pump and then open the toilet valve to blow out the little bit of water that gets trapped in it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:37 PM   #24
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Yeah, I really like my low-point drain. So simple to use, and very effective. I tried blowing my lines afterwards, the first time I used it, but got no more than a bit of a spit out. I much prefer it, or blowing out the lines, to pumping RV antifreeze through the lines.
I'm with you Jim. I used RV anti freeze in my lines on my first camper 30 odd years ago. I bet the taste of that RV anti freeze is still in the lines. I was pumping pink foam for days. That little bit of spit you blow out is worth it. It was probably in the toilet valve. A freind of mine with a 5.0 froze his toilet. I think after that is when the procedures were changed.
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Old 09-25-2014, 12:44 PM   #25
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So now I am in a panic - the directions for our 21 said we could use compressed air OR antifreeze. We put antifreeze in the water tank and ran the pump to run it through all the faucets and toilet. Are we going to have problems because we did not use compressed air in the city water line??
Probably not regarding freezing, but you will be pumping a lot of water through the system in the spring to get the anti freeze out. (see post above). If the procedure Jim uses works in Alberta it should work for everyone.
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If you choose to use RV antifreeze, it is hand pumped into the system through the city water connection ( not the fresh water tank ). Turn the water heater bypass valves so you don't fill it with antifreeze. Remove the anode from the water heater to drain it.
One person pumps and another opens taps in the trailer, sequentially, until pink fluid runs out. You also open the toilet trap until you see pink. Don't forget shower and outside shower ( if you have one ).
It takes very little RV antifreeze ( maybe half a gallon ). The remainder of two gallons is poured down the drains and into the black tank.
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We followed these instructions. Paul for using RV antifreeze method. And yes we did use potable RV antifreeze So all should be well.
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And Mr Baglo - just to be safe I will add some antifreeze through the city fill also! Thanks for the info!
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If you choose to use RV antifreeze, it is hand pumped into the system through the city water connection ( not the fresh water tank ). One person pumps and another opens taps in the trailer, sequentially, until pink fluid runs out. You also open the toilet trap until you see pink. Don't forget shower and outside shower ( if you have one ).
It takes very little RV antifreeze ( maybe half a gallon ). The remainder of two gallons is poured down the drains and into the black tank.
What ensures you pump has been cleared out, as I don't believe that it goes through it when hooked to the city supply, does it?
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According to the instructions from ETI, you run the pump for 10 or 15 seconds ( after draining the fresh water tank ). That clears any water out of the pump.
Should do the same, I guess, if you use the low-point drain method.

Forgot to mention that you need to turn the bypass valves on the hot water tank ( and drain it by removing the anode ). Don't want to pump 6 gals. of antifreeze into it either.
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