Awning & window changes

[KatrinaOstby]

Originally Posted by tdf-texas

Makes you wonder what they are smoking on the west coast.

Mary Jane is legal out here. You don't even have to wonder any more...

[Perry Butler]

Originally Posted by Rossue

Are you sure about the rear window in a 21 being single pane? I know ours is double pane or thermal picture window. I know if you get the front window then like all models it is single pane.

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Since Perryb67 is not an owner speaking from experience, he may have misheard the correct information.

Could have swore I stated that in post 172.

Enjoy,

Perry

[Chris & Patricia]

Originally Posted by KatrinaOstby

Mary Jane is legal out here. You don't even have to wonder any more...

It may be legal in certain states, but its still illegal federally. The trouble is that the border is staffed by federal staff, who often ask a question if you have ever consumed the aforementioned substance, and may and often exclude Canadians who answer yes.

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by Perryb67

Could have swore I stated that in post 172.

Enjoy,

Perry

I was merely trying to stop the speculation that a misstatement causes.

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by Moaboy

Bottom line, based on my experience, I would not hesitate to order an Escape with the power awning and frameless thermal windows. Either way, the Escape is a great RV.

I agree with that Scott. The owners of the frameless windows and power awning that I've spoken to all seem to share that opinion as well. I still think it was a QC issue and perhaps a spike in warranty calls that caused Escape to change back.

[Serendipity]

Wish I knew about the awning... we just picked up our 19... gorgeous, but now concerned about the awning... have not yet opened it once so hesitant to do so... keeping fingers crossed that all will work out ok... Also, we did not get the frameless windows... just sliders... they work great... glad we did not go for the frameless ones...

[Perry Butler]

I called Escape today and asked the rear window question again. The rear is fixed AND double pane, but I questioned yesterday about single pane and was told single pane. Different story today. Sorry for my mistake posting. I'll be talking to Rease or Tammy for answers from now on.

Enjoy,

Perry

[the5reeds]

I am new to the forum and the Escape Trailer world, having recently placed an order for a 19' to be delivered in November. I am so glad I read this thread about the awning and windows. I am a big fan of awnings and had the Carefree on a previous Nash trailer and it was bullet proof. I was worried about the strength of the Dometic hanging out in space like that. I asked them to send me a photo of he implementation. Needless to say, today I revised my order and changed to the Carefree awning and framed double pane windows (vs frameless). no questions. What a great company.

[Rossue]

Originally Posted by Perryb67

I called Escape today and asked the rear window question again. The rear is fixed AND double pane, but I questioned yesterday about single pane and was told single pane. Different story today. Sorry for my mistake posting. I'll be talking to Rease or Tammy for answers from now on.

Enjoy,

Perry

So actually without ordering the Thermal Package all windows would be single pane.

[CADreamin]

As much as I don't like to post things I've heard 'through the grapevine', a little bird told me that ETI is in talks with Carefree about their screen room and is hoping to be able to offer one for the manual awning by the Fall. For us, that's just one more reason we're glad we changed to the manual awning as you've probably guessed by now, we LOVED the screen room on our 19'.

[The Quilting Lady]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Heck if I know, I'm sort of in limbo, my 19 is gone this week, I have a 2019 on order with the frameless windows and power awning, supposed to be completed in December and sit until the rally in May, now I'm not sure what to do. HELP.....

Jim, the new awning sure is convenient and looks nice, but I think they are too fragile. we had problems with it out during a long drizzle it pooled in the front and bent the arm. Had to get a new awning. Also a problem is that you can not see if anything has fallen on the awning, such as a small twig, before you roll it back in. Ask me how I know and what kind of damage a small twig can make.

Now that we have a our awning replaced, I am almost afraid to use it. And I have to stand on top of a picnic table so that I can see if anything fell on it while it was out.
My husband would definitely order the old one. Oh yeah and they are just more stable.

[cpaharley2008]

I'm committed to the power awning, with proper and judicious use it will be fine. There is a sweep on the case that clears debris while retracting. Use it and enjoy it....
As far as windows, double/single pane, I'd not speculate as to what someone, other than your sales person says. The website says framed thermal, the frameless are thermal, that is a fact. Anything else would need to be clarified.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by The Quilting Lady

Jim, the new awning sure is convenient and looks nice, but I think they are too fragile. we had problems with it out during a long drizzle it pooled in the front and bent the arm. Had to get a new awning. Also a problem is that you can not see if anything has fallen on the awning, such as a small twig, before you roll it back in. Ask me how I know and what kind of damage a small twig can make.

Now that we have a our awning replaced, I am almost afraid to use it. And I have to stand on top of a picnic table so that I can see if anything fell on it while it was out.
My husband would definitely order the old one. Oh yeah and they are just more stable.

My brother's awning filled with water when left unattended in a rainstorm at the rally, and was down to the picnic table. It bent a pin on the arm holding it to the trailer. I did some RV mechanic work, replaced the pin, adjusted everything and it looks to be just fine. No evidence of arm bending. These things are way tougher than given credit for.

If you bent an arm, why replace the whole thing? I just pulled the motor and removed the arm to get the bent pin out. You could quite easily swap out an arm. If it is on the left side you don't even have to pull the motor.

[sclifrickson]

Originally Posted by Serendipity

Wish I knew about the awning... we just picked up our 19... gorgeous, but now concerned about the awning... have not yet opened it once so hesitant to do so... keeping fingers crossed that all will work out ok... Also, we did not get the frameless windows... just sliders... they work great... glad we did not go for the frameless ones...

I’d argue to not be hesitant about the awning, but conversely, use it a lot. That way two things will happen. One, you will develop comfort and confidence in its use, and two, in the unlikely event that there is anything flawed with your awning, you will figure that out sooner and ETI will take care of you and sort it out now while your warranty is all fresh and sparkly.

Fear not. They are very nice awnings and sooo much faster and easier to use! Just keep it at about 1/3 deployed if it’s precipitating and all will be well [emoji106]

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by sclifrickson

I’d argue to not be hesitant about the awning, but conversely, use it a lot. That way two things will happen. One, you will develop comfort and confidence in its use, and two, in the unlikely event that there is anything flawed with your awning, you will figure that out sooner and ETI will take care of you and sort it out now while your warranty is all fresh and sparkly.

Fear not. They are very nice awnings and sooo much faster and easier to use! Just keep it at about 1/3 deployed if it’s precipitating and all will be well [emoji106]

Good advice.

In heavy rain I keep mine up to 1/2 way out and it does not seem to pool. At night though I take it in closer to 1/3.

[MikeS]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

Good advice.

In heavy rain I keep mine up to 1/2 way out and it does not seem to pool. At night though I take it in closer to 1/3.

Jim - are you leaving it at the 1/3 setting overnight and how closely are you monitoring the weather when doing that?

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by MikeS

Jim - are you leaving it at the 1/3 setting overnight and how closely are you monitoring the weather when doing that?

I always have it out that far at night. No need to monitor as it sheds rain water fine, and if it gets windy the sensor will bring it in.

Seriously, these are great awning in their own right. Sure they have a couple drawbacks, but they also have even more positives.

[Perry Butler]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

As far as windows, double/single pane, I'd not speculate as to what someone, other than your sales person says. The website says framed thermal, the frameless are thermal, that is a fact. Anything else would need to be clarified.

I would agree with you except for two things. On Monday the Escape "sales person" said if we chose framed windows the large rear window would be single pane. I immediately asked why the largest window in the camper was single pane and she said again only single pane. I called yesterday and the "sales person" said double pane, so something happened here.

I have been told twice the bathroom framed window is single pane, as well as the front window, so not every window is double pane or at least what I have been told by the salesperson is those two are single pane.

I do plan on clarifying everything again with Tammy or Rease from now on.

Like all forums, what what intends to write is not what another reads, and sometimes what is meant to be a joke is take too seriously.

Enjoy,

Perry

[sclifrickson]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I always have it out that far at night. No need to monitor as it sheds rain water fine, and if it gets windy the sensor will bring it in.



Seriously, these are great awning in their own right. Sure they have a couple drawbacks, but they also have even more positives.

We do exactly the same. I leave the awning out pretty much all the time. Even when “in storage” at home, i put it out only about 6 inches past a fully opened door. And that is here in the Pacific Northwet. Sheds water great, yet still have a dry space next to the trailer for ingress and egress.

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by Perryb67

I would agree with you except for two things. On Monday the Escape "sales person" said if we chose framed windows the large rear window would be single pane. I immediately asked why the largest window in the camper was single pane and she said again only single pane. I called yesterday and the "sales person" said double pane, so something happened here.

I have been told twice the bathroom framed window is single pane, as well as the front window, so not every window is double pane or at least what I have been told by the salesperson is they are single pane.

I do plan on clarifying everything again with Tammy or Rease from now on.

Enjoy,

Perry

Let's not confuse the standard vs optional windows, yes the optional front window on a 21 is not thermal (neither is it on the 19 where it is standard) but it comes with a rock guard cover which enables you to insert some reflection in the winter for thermal effect) Their website states that the front window is not thermal (thus single paned) on both the 19 and the 21 models. I believe the optional slider bath window is not thermal also, if my memory is correct from my 2014 E21 with the framed thermal package. The 2ndG door window is thermal, standard.