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Old 02-15-2015, 07:40 PM   #21
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When we were shopping, we actually looked at a camplite 16 and Escape 19 on the same day. The camplites were at a dealer in New Hampshire and we were there on a cold October day. We had been researching both brands so I was prepared to like the camplite, but the aluminum skin and floor gave it a really cold feeling. I don't think I would have wanted to camp in it in October. That same dealer had a used Bigfoot on the lot, which was a lot warmer and we spent more time looking at the Bigfoot than the Camplite. Later that day we looked at the 19, and called Escape the next day to put a deposit on a 21.

Also, if you follow the Livinlite forums, you'll see some customer service probllems, which is an area Escape wins hands down.
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Old 02-15-2015, 07:58 PM   #22
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Several threads over on Fiberglass RV discussing pro/con of aluminum trailers- here is one
What EGG brand is the highest quality? - Fiberglass RV
basically you have to worry about the metal walls transmitting the cold to the interior, with fiberglass only the metal window frames are an issue, hailstorms and dents and finally leaks around the roof and side seams which will leak eventually are prevalent in the Campsite type trailers.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:06 PM   #23
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I think the Carefree awning ETI uses is absolutely mechanically one of the best and sturdiest designs I've ever owned. Don't really care what it looks like.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:11 PM   #24
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I'm not sure what an awning is supposed to look like, if not an awning.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:22 PM   #25
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Thanks to all for all the replies and advice! Only concerns I have with the Escape 19- not a dry bathroom and ceiling height in there is only 6 feet / awning seems very dated and not in line with such a nice trailer. Price wise the Escape would be close or slightly more.
I suppose in our 19', we could put a shower curtain next to the toilet which is up a step and the sink wall, and have a partly dry bath. Never thought of doing that but then I have only rarely used the shower. If we use it more, might do that. We have a curtain along the door side only.
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:16 PM   #26
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My good friend has the Camplite 16BHB, and in a little over two weeks he is joining my wife and I, along with Alf and his wife, (from this forum), at St. Andrews State Park, here in Florida. I have been in my friend's Camplite a couple of times and I can report that it looks very well made. It does seem to be a bit dark inside due to small windows, and with all the metal inside it does have a bit of a stark "industrial" look about it. My friend didn't care much for the "European style" windows, but I don't remember exactly why. My friend took it to Wyoming last year and reports that it towed beautifully. The only complaint he had was the metal floor and walls didn't offer any insulation and became very cold, very fast. He has also had a bit of trouble with the heater, but that was just a thermostat acting up. I read somewhere that the original developer/owner of the company sold out to one of the larger RV companies, (for what that's worth). All-in-all, I think that the Camplite is a very well-designed, well-built trailer that would serve you nicely, as would an Escape - no wrong decisions as far as I can see.

Oh, and the Escape 19 advertises interior height at 6'5", although, having been in one, I think it's really about 6'4".
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Slide? If you mean the optional street-side bed, that's a "tip out" (or fold-out): the upper part of the wall folds down to become a bed platform, covered by a tent section like one end of a tent trailer (or "pop-up"). This make it "hybrid" in common travel trailer terminology.

True, none of the moulded fiberglass travel trailer manufacturers have any kind of extension (slide or fold-out), in part because the shell is the structure so large openings are structural problems.


A smaller model might be, but the 16DB is the same size as an Escape 19-foot. Like most RV manufacturers, Camplite designates their trailers by body length, rather than by overall length.

In my ipad induced haste, yes, I was refering to the __DBS Camplites. I was also poking around the smaller models and found the 11's and 13's to be a nice size for those that like smaller trailers.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:58 AM   #28
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The only complaint he had was the metal floor and walls didn't offer any insulation and became very cold, very fast.
The material of the outer skin doesn't matter much to insulating value, and Livin' Lite puts a substantial thickness of polystyrene foam in the walls. The problem in the walls would be the aluminum framing (square tubing) which essentially shortcuts heat flow past the insulation in a substantial number of significant (1.5" wide?) strips; the more nearly continuous insulation coverage of Escape's moulded fiberglass shell and lining is an advantage here, even though the the Camplite's foam is much thicker than the Escape's. The Camplite floor, on the other hand, is fundamentally hopeless if it is uninsulated, and their specs specifically mention insulation in the walls and ceiling only. That seems crazy to me.
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The Camplite floor, on the other hand, is fundamentally hopeless if it is uninsulated, and their specs specifically mention insulation in the walls and ceiling only. That seems crazy to me.
I agree. They do offer floor insulation as an option though, according to this options list:
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Thanks to all for all the replies and advice! Only concerns I have with the Escape 19- not a dry bathroom and ceiling height in there is only 6 feet / awning seems very dated and not in line with such a nice trailer. Price wise the Escape would be close or slightly more.
Mark, if you want a very compelling reason why we and others chose an Escape, check out post #3 on this thread, then ask yourself if you are going to get THAT kind of customer service with another brand.

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