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Old 01-17-2016, 05:00 PM   #1
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Extra Insulation Option

What all is included with this option? Are they still using Reflectix for the extra insulation? Reading reports that Reflectix only provides a R-1 thermal resistance. Seems like there are better products out there and Reflectix isn't worth the labor to install it.

I plan on ordering a 2017 and camp a lot in cold weather, insulation will be important to my build.
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Old 01-17-2016, 05:20 PM   #2
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I imagine Reace would like to find something better than Reflectix, but the reality is that any type of insulation needs thickness to gain R value. Even closed cell rigid foam insulation is only R-5 per inch, so if it was as thin as Reflectix it would be barely anymore than R-1. It comes down to how much interior space one is willing to lose for more insulation value.

Reace has also said this: However, the 21' Escape and the NEW Escape 5.0 Tandem Axle Fifth Wheel, we do not line the ceiling with Reflectix, we use a honeycomb material in the fiberglass process which strengthens the roof and provides additional insulation.
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Old 01-17-2016, 05:33 PM   #3
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The thermopane windows may do more to lower the heat loss / condensation issues than a single layer of reflectix. If you pump enough heat into any area you can warm it up. We have camped at -17 F , ran the propane furnace , the electric heat strip and an electric blanket .
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Despite the mere R1 or whatever, there are those who have had the "insulation" of other fiberglass brands and say that an Escape's insulation is far better. You can add the foam spray underneath also. One thing insulation needs is an air layer and that adds a great deal (do not believe there is such a layer in an Escape though.) The insulation still seems to do a good bit.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:10 PM   #5
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I'm no fan of the bare reflectix in the lockers and under the bed. I was laying on the floor by the converter panel doing a mod the other day. My hand was close to the floor by the panel. I was amazed at the cold draft coming out of the locker.

I'd like to cover the exposed reflectix in the lockers and under the bed with the foam backed vinyl. The almost zero value reflectix under the bed could be part of the problem that some have reported with condensation around the edge of the mattress.

I'm currently installing 2" R-10, closed cell foam under the front half of the trailer. When it's done I'm going to scan the floor and measure the difference between the front and rear areas.

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I'm no fan of the bare reflectix in the lockers and under the bed. I was laying on the floor by the converter panel doing a mod the other day. My hand was close to the floor by the panel. I was amazed at the cold draft coming out of the locker.

I'd like to cover the exposed reflectix in the lockers and under the bed with the foam backed vinyl. The almost zero value reflectix under the bed could be part of the problem that some have reported with condensation around the edge of the mattress.

I'm currently installing 2" R-10, closed cell foam under the front half of the trailer. When it's done I'm going to scan the floor and measure the difference between the front and rear areas.

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Ron do you have the spray foam under trailer ? Pat
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Old 01-18-2016, 01:12 AM   #7
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No, it's not an option I wanted. Among the reasons was knowing that I'd be running wires etc. along the frame. I'll be happy if the part of the floor that I walk on is insulated and warmer.

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Ron - how are you attaching the rigid foam to the underside of the trailer?
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No, it's not an option I wanted. Among the reasons was knowing that I'd be running wires etc. along the frame. I'll be happy if the part of the floor that I walk on is insulated and warmer.

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Ron what about carpet or carpet squares . We did the foam but still put carpet down . Nothing attached , easy to remove . Really helps . Hate to get out of bed to cold floor especially the older we get . I am sure you will figure something out . PAt
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