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Old 05-02-2019, 08:29 AM   #1
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Off-The Printed Build Sheets

This is a spin off from a current thread about build sheets...
It seems that a number of people have made special requests of ETI, for particular reasons, that ETI has agreed to. One that comes to mind (a deletion instead of addition in this case) was the member who did not want the little shelf above the bed in the 21’ so they would be able to sit up in bed and read. That seems a small but important fact to know for some people! I’ve also seen some special requests having to do with cabinet doors and electrical. Please chime in with your special requests and the whys behind them...
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:37 AM   #2
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Do not be afraid to ask, the answer can be yes or no. Deletions are common, as long as they do not impact the integrity of the trailer. Additions also are limitless....Switching sink and stove locations was common originally, but now there is a fee, similarly turning the stove 90 degrees to eek out a little more counter space. I do not think moving windows is an option nor appliances. Electrical inside seems limitless as well as additional 12v outlets. I think anything that does not impede construction will be allowed, generally.
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Some things are on the build sheet but not obvious how they can be used. For example my RV 65 WeBoost cell signal booster uses Coax cable just like wiring for TV. We don’t watch TV while camping so we used the “Wire for TV” to have a Coax port installed under the rear passenger taillight. The Coax was terminated in the cabinet above the passenger dinette bench, then another Coax cable was routed from that location to the upper cabinet forward of the door on the passenger side. (Same place as the awning remote antenna.) This was for the interior cell antenna. Of course there were two charges, one for the TV port and one for the special routing.

It took a bit of explanation that was assisted by the fact that we are lucky enough to be only 3 hours away from the factory so could finalize our build sheet in person.

I then had to do the install of the booster and other components. (I also requested a 12V drop for the booster)

You can see the interior cell booster antenna in the attached photo high on the cabinet face to the right.
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:49 AM   #4
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Our off the menu build items included:

Additional light in bathroom. I fitted a red filter to this for a non-blinding option in the middle of the night.

12V drops in every cabinet, for a variety of things, from cellular booster, cabinet lights, weather station power, etc.

Several additional wires run for aftermarket things like battery monitor, temperature sensors for aftermarket solar controller, and an interior switch wired to turn exterior marker lights on and off.

We substituted a flush mount battery cutoff switch that ETI installed during the build. The stock one is easily flipped accidentally.

We had the solar controller emplaced inside a bench instead of normal mounting as we planned to change it out for a different controller and we didn’t want an incorrectly sized hole that we’d have to deal with.

Two solar panels. Better for winter or partial shade use.

Extra porch lights on front and rear, and amber lens on passenger side light, all wired to an interior switch.

Custom solar port (for portable panel, for when roof solar needs a boost) that allows use of standard shore power cord, removing need for a dedicated solar cable.

2” vents installed in all interior cabinets, to enhance ventilation and reduce chance of moisture buildup and mold/mildew. Cheaper and easy to do this yourself if you have a hole saw. I later found the same vents on Amazon that ETI had used.

Shelves added to closet as we rarely hang things, and if we need to then we do it on...

Umbra hooks. To hang coats.

Additional, low mounted grab handle. For kids. Or dwarves.

Mattress cover, fully wrap around, done in same custom fabric as seat cushions and valances.

Cell booster antenna. I don’t think they do these anymore.

Wi-Fi booster antenna. Also don’t do these any more.

Table legs not fitted. Springfield pedestal installed at orientation.

Extra sewer tubes. Handy for an extra stinky slinky, or a collapsible ladder. Or fishing poles. We have three tubes.

Reinforced walls where we thought we might want to attach things beyond what command strips can handle.

Hope this helps.

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Now that is helpful.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:07 PM   #6
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My special requests on a 2018 17A: (no charge unless indicated)

Do not install cooktop cover, provide at OR (the former cooktop, not the current drop-in)

Do not install exterior grab bar, install at OR (I'm short...the usual place is useless to me)

Do not install hang rod in wardrobe, provide at OR (i knew I was putting in Elfa drawers to the top.

Amber lens in porch light

Convert permanent bed to standard dinette. I later modified front dinette to single 30 inch wide bunk with lots more room to move around and a seat on d/s and p/s. I can still sleep four, see below. (charge)

Front dinette table: cut standard into 2 pieces, and finish both. straight cut only. piece nearest door to be 20". (charge)

Rear table: do not install pedestal, install cx provided pedestal at OR (springfield)

Reinforce entry wall/side of refrig. I wanted to put an inside handle near door for safety. (charge)

Cabinet door at end of front P/S bench (like in 19' Escape) for interior access without lifting bench. (charge)

Delete "Escape 17" from front rock guard (it shows through when cover is down)

It worked out (but i did not ask in advance) for the 8 inch table filler board to be at the back of the rear dinette. I wanted the Springfield installed so the table could be even with the rise in the floor so it could be used as extra counter space without having to reach, or trip over the rise. If you want this you should ask as the distance side to side is not always the same front to back and the board might not fit. I was lucky.

My trailer's one year birthday is in a couple of weeks. I couldn't be happier, and I was amazed at the way i could customize my Escape. it's perfect for me.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:32 PM   #7
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A suggestion of agreed to changes...

If you speak with your sales person about a change you would like to have made and she agrees to that change in writing by email, that does not necessarily mean that it will happen that way during the build. Case in point we asked for a second coax port to be installed for out portable receiver and dish. The sales person agreed to that in writing but when we got our trailer, we found it was not installed. Sent copy of the email to Dave in P&S as proof of this and he sent me the port in the mail. I had to do the work.

So, you must compare the things the sales person says yes to with your build sheet. If it isn't on the build sheet, it won't get done. Doesn't matter that you have an email indicating it will be done. This did not upset me since humans are invloved and humans make mistakes. All's well that ends well, but lesson learned.
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If you speak with your sales person about a change you would like to have made and she agrees to that change in writing by email, that does not necessarily mean that it will happen that way during the build. Case in point we asked for a second coax port to be installed for out portable receiver and dish. The sales person agreed to that in writing but when we got our trailer, we found it was not installed. Sent copy of the email to Dave in P&S as proof of this and he sent me the port in the mail. I had to do the work.

So, you must compare the things the sales person says yes to with your build sheet. If it isn't on the build sheet, it won't get done. Doesn't matter that you have an email indicating it will be done. This did not upset me since humans are invloved and humans make mistakes. All's well that ends well, but lesson learned.
Agreed. And sometimes it works out for the best. Our sales person and I agreed to the additional graphics and charge for our trailer name in person and even talked about where it would applied while we were there in the showroom. Then both of us missed it on the build sheet. I didn’t notice until we received the final photos of our build. (The only photos of the rear of the trailer.)

The good part? Between build sheet due date and Orientation we had changed our minds about the trailer name so had an opportunity to get what we really wanted. I contacted the graphics company Escape uses and ordered the new graphics. Picked them up the day before orientation. It all worked out.
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I have also heard advice to check each iteration of the build sheet against the previous one and your own list. Human error happens.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:28 PM   #10
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Custom solar port (for portable panel, for when roof solar needs a boost) that allows use of standard shore power cord, removing need for a dedicated solar cable.

Hi Sclifrickson - Could you please explain more about this? We are considering getting a solar port for portable backup, but I'm not understanding what you're saying about how things plug together. Thanks!
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