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Old 11-15-2019, 12:02 PM   #1
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Wanted- 19 ft escape

Would love to join the Escape Community and become an owner of a 19 ft. Iím in California - if anyone knows of any coming up for sale- Iím serious and ready to
Purchase .... thank you.... Jan
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:08 PM   #2
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Welcome Jan, if you contact the factory by clicking the bold red box on this page that says Escape Trailer Ind they can put you in contact of an owner near you to see and view.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:10 PM   #3
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:36 PM   #4
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Well we looked for a used E19 for a year, gave up. I started looking at other trailers and my wife said just order a new one, you wonít be happy with anything else.

Our 17B was a great trailer, but I couldnít sleep on the dinette any longer.
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The way Escape holds their value, it is almost the same price to order new and get what you want vs a used one with options you may not want.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:05 PM   #6
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I totally agree on the used vs new valuations, at least so far in the market place with regards to the Escape Trailers.
I am travelling to see family in BC and plan to stop over at ETI and once again touch and feel the Escape models. DOUG2000 is on the mark with just do it and order a new 19. I think that is the way to go and will follow suite.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:37 PM   #7
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I have done it 4 times, will there be a 5th?
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The way Escape holds their value, it is almost the same price to order new and get what you want vs a used one with options you may not want.
In the past year many have come for sale at or above the cost of a new trailer. Most had many options I didnít want to pay for. We ordered a new 19 with only a handful of low dollar options. I prefer to keep it simple. Less stuff to tinker with.

Unfortunately we are in Canada and the US CAD exchange rate wasnít very favorable for us.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:59 PM   #9
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Glad you're on board, janrun. I'm a newbie here, too. In my case, I appear to be one of the lucky ones who found a used 19 that suited me ( or, more correctly, my spouse) at a price we liked.

Your message is not the first one to ignite the "new vs. used" discussion, which is a matter with no true correct answer. I told my baby brother about Escape trailers, and his response was to order a brand new 21 from the factory! He brought it home about a month ago.

My suggestion is that you know your finances, keep your eyes open for any opportunity worth considering within your time frame and budget, and when it all comes together, which it will, don't bother looking back. This forum has a number of folks who have bemoaned purchasing new and still not getting what they wanted, and others who have purchased used with the same concerns. But most of us have been able to find something that works, and then we got out and enjoyed ourselves and our new toys as we intended.

We wish you happy dreams and hope to see you on the road some day soon with the same happy grins we will be showing.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:12 PM   #10
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Thank you

Thanks so much for all your insight and advice, I am very new to all of this and really appreciate your words of experience. Iím think leaning toward purchasing a new one as they really do seem to hold their value, but really have no idea how the taxes and all that works when purchasing in another country.... thoughts? Also, any thoughts on the 17 vs the 19 foot? Thanks so much.... Jan
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but really have no idea how the taxes and all that works when purchasing in another country

ETI imports the trailer into the US so you do not pay any Canadian sales taxes. Not sure what the current NAFTA situation is, but I don't think there are any tariffs either.

You will pay your state sales tax or whatever is applicable in your state.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:30 PM   #12
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As for 17 versus 19, if I was starting from scratch, I'd get the 19. My buddy has the 19 and I have a 17. He has a four person dinette for joint dinners and playing cards in inclement weather. The aisle is wider in his trailer, so people can pass one another. Only reason I've not moved to a 19 is I'd need to buy a new tow vehicle.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:23 AM   #13
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Part of the problem with new vs used is that potential buyers add a few of the options on the build list tool from website, and feel they can get one for around 33 or 34k. I think it’s the fault of that new estimate tool they have. The new Escape website does not list all options available with that tool. Some of the used ones have been purchased new for 45+k cad. I believe some customers feel they should be able to purchase a late model used for around 30k.

Think it’s a great little marketing tool by the new owners of Escape to pull potential buyers away from used toward the new units.
I personally think that the used market is going to drop and resale will no longer be a purchasing feature. Just my opinion
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As long as there is a time lag in manufacturing, used should hold their value. what is the saying "Time is money"....
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The way Escape holds their value, it is almost the same price to order new and get what you want vs a used one with options you may not want.
Jim: The only caveat to that might be for guys like us that are 3000 miles from the factory. Pick up or delivery has serious costs associated with it. A seller is going to eat most if not all of that expense. That is a large savings for the buyer of a used trailer.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:34 AM   #16
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I agree somewhat, since my first 2 were delivered. But that said, my last 2 were pick ups and well worth the trip. Cost was about $1500 for out and back from east coast and if planned with Rally week really convenient. I had my second delivered with another Escapee who drove up from North Carolina. They were new to camping and towing, so I did an "orientation weekend" at a local cg where I was able to show them the awning and how everything works inside. They say the best way to learn something is to teach it....
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:42 AM   #17
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The costs of delivery and registration, titling, brake controller, to me are all on the owner and are "sunk costs" or costs of buying and selling. I may have bought 4 new Escapes, but using the same corpus so to speak, I'm still out at least an average of 3K per unit.. and the lost camping time as I always seem to sell in spring and summer. Plus there are the modifications added later, some of which have been the same for all of my Escapes. I go to order something on Amazon and see where "You purchased this item on,,,,,,,and ,,,,,,,, and.........!!
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I have done it 4 times, will there be a 5th?
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I agree somewhat, since my first 2 were delivered. But that said, my last 2 were pick ups and well worth the trip. Cost was about $1500 for out and back from east coast and if planned with Rally week really convenient. I had my second delivered with another Escapee who drove up from North Carolina.
$1500 sounds pretty low. For fuel alone you were probably around $1000. Hotel stays on the way out, CG fees on the way home (unless Walmarting it), food, etc. Iím not diminishing the value of attending the rally and the experience of picking up the trailer and camping your way home. Just trying to put some honest costs to the endeavor for others that might be considering it.
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6,000 miles X 73.6 (SUV) = $4,400 ( approx ).

That's just the cost per mile to drive an SUV according to AAA.
Living expenses are extra.
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