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Old 01-21-2015, 10:08 PM   #11
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Right on the money!

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We chose the 21 for the no-crawl-over bed after having had a Casita 17. We prefer the view out the rear window while at the dinette and don't want a front window. Spent a long time shopping/configuring as this IS the last trailer we intend to buy; has enough room for 2-3 young grandkids AND 3 smallish dogs!

Tow behavior is much better than the Casita behind our Taco v6 4x4 (6400 lb rating) and we've never had an issue in the mountains.
I agree with Charley for same reasons. We had a Casita too. We stopped to see Cpaharley's 21'. Five minutes and I was sold.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:09 PM   #12
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For the two of us, we feel like the 19 hits a real sweet spot. It's large enough to store everything we need in the camper rather than having to run to the car for things the way we did with our Casita. It tows easily behind our Highlander, and I can still make the occasional U-turn with it. When we park in grocery store lots, the car and Escape fit perfectly in two spaces. No doubt the 21 is a wonderful model and has several advantages over the 19 to some. Like Charlie, we intend for this to the last trailer WE intend to buy, it's just that our needs are slightly more modest.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:27 PM   #13
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For the two of us, we feel like the 19 hits a real sweet spot. It's large enough to store everything we need in the camper rather than having to run to the car for things the way we did with our Casita. It tows easily behind our Highlander, and I can still make the occasional U-turn with it. When we park in grocery store lots, the car and Escape fit perfectly in two spaces. No doubt the 21 is a wonderful model and has several advantages over the 19 to some. Like Charlie, we intend for this to the last trailer WE intend to buy, it's just that our needs are slightly more modest.
I would agree with this wholeheartedly. We were absolutely certain we wanted a 17, mainly because we had been going back and forth on a Casita SD17 and what was clearly a better built unit, the Escape. The smallness and ease of towing have made the tinier fiberglass trailers hugely popular in South Texas. Our needs were not great, but a little extra comfort is always appealing. Having seen Steve and Cynthia's 19 here in the San Antonio area, we realized that it was still compact, still easily towable with a v6, and had everything we wanted and one thing more -- a queen bed. That was it.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:45 PM   #14
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Oh just give it up and buy a 5.0TA, you get everything from the other builds and more
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:58 PM   #15
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Get the one that has the storage that you need. I have a 19' on order and never stepped into a 21'. Plan to tow with a V6 4Runner, roughly 5,000lbs. Interior height is probably the only reason I didn't order a 17'.
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We went with the 21. We liked the bed set up better, and the little bit of extra space is nice with the dogs on the floor. We towed it home 4400 miles from Chilliwack with a Ridgeline with a 5000 lb tow limit without any difficulty. I was surprised how well it towed. We also have an Andersen hitch, which I think was well worth the money.
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Old 01-21-2015, 11:51 PM   #17
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Have you asked escape industries what they think? I am planning on towing with a Nissan pathfinder with a 5000 tow rating.
When we were viewing the 19 vs. 21, the guy who does the hitch up gave me the impression that the 21 was too big for me.
I know what you are going through, I have zero tow experience and don't want to make any expensive mistakes.
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Have you asked escape industries what they think? I am planning on towing with a Nissan pathfinder with a 5000 tow rating.
When we were viewing the 19 vs. 21, the guy who does the hitch up gave me the impression that the 21 was too big for me.
I know what you are going through, I have zero tow experience and don't want to make any expensive mistakes.
My only caveat to this would be to make sure your choice is based primarily on the trailer and to a lesser extent the tow vehicle. Its easier to upgrade your tow than upsize your trailer. I will probably go through several tow vehicles during the time I own my Escape.
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:41 AM   #19
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My tow vehicle is rated for 5k lbs.
Good start... but how much towing capacity is available when the tow vehicle is loaded with passengers and cargo the way it will be when you're towing the Escape? Depending on the vehicle that might still be 5000 pounds, but if only 3500 pounds of capacity are left for the trailer then an Escape 21' will be too much.

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My general assessment is I would prefer the space and options of the 21 IF towing is not more difficult.
The 21' is 4" wider than the 19' (which everything a little more difficult) and of course a couple feet longer (which only matters in tight places... like some campsites). Fortunately, both are not very large compared to most travel trailers. How big are the boats you've towed, Craig?

Once you're on the highway, the width won't matter much (as long as you have wide enough mirrors to see around it), and the length doesn't matter at all.
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My only caveat to this would be to make sure your choice is based primarily on the trailer and to a lesser extent the tow vehicle. Its easier to upgrade your tow than upsize your trailer. I will probably go through several tow vehicles during the time I own my Escape.
I'm 100% with Robert on this one. You may only have ONE custom built trailer, but you may have multiple tow rigs. I've found myself in this situation... Tugs may come and they may go... but the perfect towable only happens once. YMMV
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