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Old 04-07-2016, 09:27 AM   #1
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19' sway bars??

Pulling the 19' escape trailer, does it need sway bars??
What about torsion bars??
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:54 AM   #2
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Pulling the 19' escape trailer, does it need sway bars??
What about torsion bars??
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Depends very much on how you load your trailer and what you are towing with. The 19' is an inherently stable trailer and if you have a capable tow vehicle, you may not require anti sway or weight distribution devices. For my tow vehicle (which is an FJ cruiser) I use a weight distribution hitch but no sway control devices. Trailer is super stable and I have never had any indications of sway, even in very strong windy conditions or passing/being passed by large trucks.
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I can't speak for the 19 as we have a 17, but we too use a WDH and have never experienced even a hint of sway. Reace does a very good job with weight distribution in the layout of all Escapes in my opinion. As long as you keep your tongue weight in the safe zone, I would expect a sway free tow.
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What Dave and Eric said. I've towed (Silverado) my 19 20 thousand-plus miles over hill and dale, mountain tunnels and long windy desert wastelands, nothing assisting the basic factory hitch connection, and never felt a hint of concern.
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We tow our 21' with nothing except the stock tow package on our Tundra. Never had a bit of sway, sag, or any other problem.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:30 PM   #6
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What others have said. I'd never towed my 19 without the WDH until last week when I was only moving it a short distance. Much more level with the WDH. Sway, never.

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Old 04-08-2016, 01:19 PM   #7
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An Interesting Overseas Perspective

"From a caravan and tow vehicle dynamics perspective, a WDH addresses a condition that would better not be there in the first place. It’s a bit like using a truss to support a hernia. It is preferable to design caravans such that they need less download (as is being done in Europe). Australian (and US) reality however is that the tow ball loading is too high for most tow vehicles to cope with unless a WDH is used – as the otherwise loss of weight on the steering wheels is not acceptable." From Caravan and Tow Vehicle Dynamics
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"From a caravan and tow vehicle dynamics perspective, a WDH addresses a condition that would better not be there in the first place. It’s a bit like using a truss to support a hernia. It is preferable to design caravans such that they need less download (as is being done in Europe). Australian (and US) reality however is that the tow ball loading is too high for most tow vehicles to cope with unless a WDH is used – as the otherwise loss of weight on the steering wheels is not acceptable." From Caravan and Tow Vehicle Dynamics
That makes good sense. If they were to work on effectively reducing tongue weight, without increasing the possibility of sway, they certainly would solve a lot of weight distribution issues.

Much better to eliminate a problem, that have to correct for it.
(BTW, I am not referring to myself on this forum )
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If they were to work on effectively reducing tongue weight, without increasing the possibility of sway, they certainly would solve a lot of weight distribution issues.
Therein lies the problem. But I also wonder about that somewhat intangible aspect that various folks, including myself, have mentioned. That, with the WDH, the trailer and tug feel much more "as one". I'd be curious if that feeling still existed with a different balance system without the WDH.

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Pulling the 19' escape trailer, does it need sway bars??
What about torsion bars??
By "sway bars" I assume that you mean a friction-based sway control device.

By "torsion bars", I assume that you mean the spring bars of a weight-distributing hitch (WDH). There is nothing "torsion" about those bars (the spring bars are bent, not twisted), so it's a lot more clear to refer to weight distribution or "WD" hitches or systems.

The other responses have already addressed the actual questions, about what is needed.
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