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Old 06-26-2016, 01:37 PM   #11
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I picked up this one last fall after the Coleman bit the bullet, supposed to be the one the chefs use for buffets and such. Saw other brands for $10-20. FWIW, they do tell you to only use their brand of butane. I
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:00 PM   #12
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Son-in-law never got to go camping as a child, or even as an adult, until now.
They arrived at Lake Louise and set up a brand new tent that seemed to be missing pegs for the fly.
They attempted to light a fire ( texting me for advice on how to get wet wood to burn ). They had no axe.
A fellow camper gave them some lighter fluid.
And then it rained, heavily, all night.
It was day two ( this morning ) that the butane stove exploded while making breakfast, eggs over easy. They ate toast.
Pic is parts of the stove embedded in their cooler.
We'll see what the son-in-law is made of when camping is mentioned again.
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:16 PM   #13
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Thanks for sharing this Glenn.

Let's hope your son-in-law doesn't sign-off from camping forever.

Rather, learn some good lessons. Such as we need to test our equipment ahead of camping..... Such as setting up a tent at home not just trusting that new means no issues.
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:19 PM   #14
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A possible safety advantage of these butane stoves over conventional propane installations in a trailer is that there is a limited amount of fuel available if there is a leak. The same logic would work for using a propane camp stove run by a one-pound cylinder, instead of having a propane line plumbed into the trailer's interior. I have more faith in a permanent installation than the seal on a portable cylinder. The stove could be defective in either case.
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(Glad everyone was OK in this incident)

A guy jumps out of an airplane with a parachute on his back. As he's falling he realizes his chute is broken, now he doesn't know anything about parachutes really, but as the earth rapidly approaches he realizes his options are limited, he takes off the parachute and tries to fix it himself on the way down. The wind is ripping past his face, he's dropping like a rock, and at 5000 feet another guy goes shooting Up past him. In desperation, our man with the chute looks up and yells, "Hey do you know anything about parachutes?!?!?" The guy flying up looks down and yells, "NO, do you know anything about Coleman gas stoves
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Old 06-26-2016, 04:34 PM   #16
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The problem appears to be with the way fuel is housed in these stoves, and perhaps inherent with the use of butane. In Europe it is common to use butane instead of propane in RVs, in systems just like our propane systems; however, butane has much lower vapour pressure at the same temperature, so it does not work well at low temperatures - I'm sure it would be completely unsatisfactory much of the time here in Alberta. The portable stoves put the butane canister inside the housing and deliberately exposed to the stove's heat to keep the pressure up, but if that is not managed properly the canister can vent with dramatic results. A one-pound disposable propane cylinder outside of a portable stove makes more sense to me.

I am not at all sure that replacing an old butane stove of this type with one made more recently and sold in North America will make any difference at all. The article is from Australia, and the stoves come from various Asian countries. The stove you buy here today which was made a couple of months ago may be completely identical to the one you throw out; it might be one that Australia didn't allow in and was sold to us instead.

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission issued a report on butane stoves, and reported one recall for Sterno butane stoves in 2011. I didn't spend a lot of time searching, but I didn't find any recent recall, ban, or notice.

I don't see any reference to butane stoves (just butane containers) in the Health Canada website; Health Canada handles consumer product safety issues for the Canadian federal government.
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We'll see what the son-in-law is made of when camping is mentioned again.
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Let's hope your son-in-law doesn't sign-off from camping forever.
baglo gets him polish to the Escape, and the son-in-law hasn't bailed yet. It seems to be that he can handle a little stove explosion.
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I've spent the morning on Google researching these butane stoves. Haven't found anything after spring 2015 and the issues appear to have occurred in one Australian state. User error appears to be a factor and some changes have been made to prevent problems.
I will be replacing the one that exploded with one of recent manufacture, assuming I can determine that.
If this was a common problem, I'm sure the U.S.A. would have banned them.
I'd get the Iwatani for $74 on Amazon.com, but it's $136 plus $15 shipping on Amazon.ca
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Oh my ...we have two of these butane stoves , and have used them at the same time . Appreciate the warning - we'll have to look into making a change . Yipes ....
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Oh my ...we have two of these butane stoves , and have used them at the same time . Appreciate the warning - we'll have to look into making a change . Yipes ....
I need to talk to son-in-law, but not by text, to get a better picture of what may have happened.
Sites warn against using too large a pan because it can reflect heat onto the butane canister. But, there are safety items built into the canister to allow it to vent.
Apparently those made after 2015 have additional safety precautions.
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