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Old 06-06-2013, 04:06 PM   #11
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Jim,

With a 19 getting ready to be built I'd sure like to hear what you have learned about the options and what you would not repeat.

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I'd probably not get the screen room and the cot option. I have the 3 burner s/s stove, probably would get the 2 burner, only used all 3 once. I have the microwave now, probably would delete. I would want the sliding table now in the 19, it is quite ingenious. All my other options I'd still order.
The additional weight of the 21' is what would hold me back since I have 2 adequate tow vehicles now with my 19' being around 3500# "wet".
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:39 PM   #12
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Escape 19 vs Escape 21

Several posts were made and moved here in comparing what owners with a 19' would change in ordering a new 21'.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #13
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When we started looking for our trailer, we saw several with similar bed layouts to the 21’ Escape. The full sized queen bed was probably the #1 selling feature of the 19’ Escape. No queen bed is a show stopper for us. A feature I would look for in a “next trailer” would be a walk around queen.

Our dinette table seems to be a catch-all from the doorway and I would worry about a front bed turning into the same. Regarding better scenery out the back window – we have been in sites where the best scenery is out the front window. Realistically, we spend the bulk of our time outdoors, so the view from inside the trailer is irrelevant. If we are inside we are either sleeping or the weather outside is too crappy to see much anyway.

Options we would change on our 19? I still wrestle with our need for AC. We have it and have needed it once. It’s a fairly significant $ and adds a fair amount of weight. We definitely would not get the tv hookup, and would not get the outside shower. The table / pedestal arrangement works fine and we would keep the range hood with fan (we use it all the time). I added a strip of LED lights under the hood instead and that makes a tremendous difference.

We had the front box added, more for trailer protection than storage. I still think the box is an opportunity to overload the tongue weight. It is nice for a catch-all while we are set up in a campsite. Our batteries are in the box and it is not an issue for us. But as previously stated, everyone's needs are different.
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:55 AM   #14
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I am now at Quartzite (with my daughter "Little Camper" and while we had our heart set on an Escape 21 ... As my wife usually comes camping with us ....

Compared to our 17' Casita we like the thought of the permanent bed on the Escspe 21 (disturbing sleeping spouse less) and the aisle and counter space of the Escape 21

However our tug (AWD Acura MDX 500 lb hitch / 5000 lb weight) would be approaching it's safe limits with a 21'

Although I will get WDH and sway. And we travel light. And light usage. (20 years left in workforce)
And I pack carefully.

So the 21' has more aisle space and more counter space than the 19'

Any other thoughts about differences ?

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Our 21 weighs in at 4200 on the road with maybe half a tank of water.
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:27 AM   #16
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Our 21 weighs in at 4200 on the road with maybe half a tank of water.
Good info. :-)

My concern is that I want under body foam (40 lbs) plus thermal Windows, and solar. And dual 6v

It all adds up.

Do you have any of these options ?

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Good info. :-)

My concern is that I want under body foam (40 lbs) plus thermal Windows, and solar. And dual 6v

It all adds up.

Do you have any of these options ?

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Thermal windows, solar, and the big 12V option.
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:31 AM   #18
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Hi Losangeles. We compared the 19 with the 21 and it was the aisle space and counter space that was impressive. The 21 also has a larger bathroom and you just appreciate a little extra room. The holding tanks are bigger too.

As for your tug, you might want a little more to pull a 21. I ordered our present tug to pull a Casita, but then we discovered Escape and bought the 21. The GMC has a 10,800 pound towing capacity and handles the 21 fine, but you do know something is behind you. Loren
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Batteries in a 21' are in the back bench. Common loaded weight for a 21' is 4200 lbs. Lots of owners pulling them with 5000 lb. towing capacity TVs. There are long threads on the differences between 19' and 21'. For boondocking, 30 gallons of water on a 21' vs. 20 gallons for a 19'. More storage.
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:13 AM   #20
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With an Escape and fiberglass in general, the trailer will outlast your tow vehicle. I have almost all the options, I'm sitting at 4300# over the axles and 500# on the tongue, packed for 2 weeks camping.. Get the trailer and then later get a larger tow if needed.
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