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Old 06-07-2018, 02:50 PM   #21
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Last I looked there was a $10,000 premium for the 4Runner.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:54 PM   #22
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Just a thought to throw out there. A 4Runner gets 17/21 MPG and 5,000lb tow capacity; whereas a GMC/Chevy 1500 will get 18/24 MPG and a tow capacity of a lot more than 5,000. I'm sure a full size Ford or Ram will get similar. I took the back seat out of my GMC Sierra and there is alot of room for storage. My guess is while towing with a full size you will get much better MPG than the 4Runner. You also need to take into consideration the total GVWR. There are discussions regarding GVWR on this forum somewhere. But a full size is obviously much bigger but on the highway it will tow much better than a mid size SUV. You have a lot of time to think about this and will probably change your mind many times but its all part of the fun. Oh and BTW an Escape trailer is the way to go.
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Old 06-07-2018, 02:58 PM   #23
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it was hard to find a 4runner in my price point. So i chose a Highlander i really liked it towed my 17 very easily up many mountains. I think either would work -more about price- i bought used so looked at both. To get the 4runner at a price i could afford i needed to buy one with a lot of miles on it. but then moved up to a 5.0 and bought a new F150 so i guess $$$ was spent anyway!
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:04 PM   #24
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I tow w a 2012 4x4 4Runner. Excellent vehicle but mileage is about 14-15 towing. Looked at highlander but that 3rd row seating is off putting. Even w seats down there is a slope & some gaps. For those suggesting a permanent bed or mattress in the 17b, how do u access the pump, water heater etc easily?
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:59 PM   #25
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We use a RX 350 to tow with and using a WDH we have no problems pulling. The Highlander can be set up for towing 5000lbs. and would be a great choice. Our RX has 3500lbs. rating. We just retired, sold the house and now we’re Wanderlusting around.
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Old 06-07-2018, 07:13 PM   #26
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Update on a few decisions and Thank you for all the Help and Advice

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OK, here goes been researching and considering this for some time and getting close to decision time so wanted to seek advise. If this should be in a different area of the forum, let me know.

I'm about 2 years from retirement and plan on spending about 5-7, maybe more living out of the Escape. Retiring from 30 years as a Firefighter and it's just me. I also plan on care taking houses and animal rescues across the country from time to time. I'm sure I will be in housing some but also want to have my home with me for some remote areas that I would like to visit. Will have access to electric some and other times not.

I am aloting 35000 - 40000 USD for Trailer. I think the 17 will be more than enough space for me, I'm a minimalist. Just a comfortable bed and computer access keeps me happy. I will probably get one loaded, every option offered, including a quiet generator and full solar array for off grid times.

My main question is Tow vehicle, I am leaning towards a New Highlander. I have budgeted 35000 - 40000 for the vehicle. I would love to use a minivan. I like them and I will probably leave the trailer at times and live in the vehicle for a few days at a time. My favorite is the Town and Country / Pacifica but I just don't think it's gonna be good enough for Tow Capacity which is why I'm leaning towards a Highlander

I am open to all opinions and comments on both the tow vehicle and ANY advise you can give. I will be living on these forums over the next year to learn what I can. I would like to make up my mind by Summer of next year on Trailer and Vehicle, order the trailer allowing for another year for build out and then I'm off.

I don't like cold weather so I will probably only be in the Northern States in Summer time and Southern States in the Winter.

Let me have it.

First, let me say thank you for the awesome posts, advice and even Private emails. This is exactly what I'm looking for. It is also just simply a lot of fun going over my options. It is going to be a work in progress and I know I can change my mind. Who knows what options will come out over the next year. With that said, this is my updated opinion.

Many of you have touched on things I've thought about and your nudging me in a slightly different path which is exactly what I wanted. I know there is no perfect answer but good advice is always welcome and put to use.

I have been in each size new floor model 17 , 19, 21. I was originally thinking 19, talked myself into the 17 which was my original post and after reading so many comments and blogs, I'm back to the 19. I am still gonna visit a few outings and visit some more lived in models.

I started with a tow vehicle of a highlander and am now leaning towards a 4runner. I have also added a Sprinter to the list but have no experience with it as a tow vehicle. I am not out completely on the idea of a pickup truck with a topper but I'm not convinced that is the way I want to go. It would definitely meet my needs of an away from trailer temp home and am handy so I could build it out pretty nice I think.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:27 PM   #27
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As a career firefighter, you have a reputation and an image that you are going to have to carry with you even after you retire. Although the Highlander is a nice car, it does not carry the same adventurous image as the 4Runner, which is a go anywhere fully 4-wheel drive capable sport utility vehicle. I would say go for the 4Runner!
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It's funny you said that, it was actually a fellow firefighter who said it was the "Cooler" way to go.
When I purchased a Honda Pilot to tow our 17A, I got thumbs ups from the engineers, and also my captain & my BC, and just OK's from the firefighters (who commented most that at least I got white to match the trailer-- (always testing how thick the skin is!!!) ). The Pilot is about the same HP and torque as the Highlander, and since retirement we have towed up and down mts. up to 9000 ft. throughout the Western US. We're at just under 3000 lbs. with all our gear and tanks full. IMHO, the Highlander is a great choice.

So, it just depends.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:59 AM   #28
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I started with a tow vehicle of a highlander and am now leaning towards a 4runner. I have also added a Sprinter to the list but have no experience with it as a tow vehicle. I am not out completely on the idea of a pickup truck with a topper but I'm not convinced that is the way I want to go. It would definitely meet my needs of an away from trailer temp home and am handy so I could build it out pretty nice I think.
Funny reading this. We have a jeep rubicon unlimited that is my vehicle. It has been pulling the 19 since we picked up the trailer. Now my hubby bought a Ford 150 truck this past winter, and was only going to the Osoyoos rally with his truck in front. Otherwise he wasn't coming... Anyway, we are in the mountains and his comment: "doesn't even have more power then the rubicon". At the campground in Osoyoos, him unloading chairs, table, barbecue, dog kennel, etc. from the truck box, his comment: "this is b.s., next time we bring the rubicon".
That sure made my day!!
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:30 AM   #29
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We have an Escape 19 fully loaded and it would be very liveable. The queen bed they install is very comfortable.

Our tow vehicle is an Acura MDX 3.7 L 6 spd auto. It is perfect for towing this. Cruises at 2-3000 rpm most of the time, goes up to 4000 on hills. 5000 lb tow capacity. I feel the vehicle matches the trailer well.

The 2007-2013 MDX has this motor and capacity.

I think it ties better than our 2005 Tacoma 4.0 L 5 spd auto did. That thing was always revving to 5000 rpm and used way more gas.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:45 AM   #30
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Funny reading this. We have a jeep rubicon unlimited that is my vehicle. It has been pulling the 19 since we picked up the trailer. Now my hubby bought a Ford 150 truck this past winter, and was only going to the Osoyoos rally with his truck in front. Otherwise he wasn't coming... Anyway, we are in the mountains and his comment: "doesn't even have more power then the rubicon". At the campground in Osoyoos, him unloading chairs, table, barbecue, dog kennel, etc. from the truck box, his comment: "this is b.s., next time we bring the rubicon".
That sure made my day!!
Your post reminded me of Ral Donner in 1961 doing his hit song “You don’t know what you’ve got” and those 14 year old young ladies dancing the calypso to it.
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