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Old 04-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #11
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Jubal, I meant for travel but couldn't edit it because it is pretty impossible to edit a long post. You don't want problems with water or propane running when not using them.

I should add to 7. Also turn off water on exterior city connection, if using that, if leaving the trailer for the day. That prevents mishaps while gone.

To add to Brian's comments, a guy came back to his trailer after being gone during the day to find the floor covered in water. The cat had turned on a kitchen faucet.




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7. Turn off water pump switch and also hot water heater propane switch if using propane.
Please explain why.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:08 PM   #12
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Thank you Cathy
A good list of problems to avoid. I will probably be adding to the list after camping with the Escape this summer as it is a jump in technology for us tent campers.
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Oops, how many of us leave the fridge on gas and pull in to refill and not even think of that.!
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I turn off the gas at the tanks as part of my to-do list prior to moving out.
Ice cream in the freezer compartment was only somewhat soft after 5 hrs. Wasn't 90 degrees F out though.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #15
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Oops, how many of us leave the fridge on gas and pull in to refill and not even think of that.!
Ditto on that piece of advice. Thanks for the heads up.

We have typically left the propane fridge running while towing, but only one summer of trailer experience now. Never had to worry about it with our tent!

Now we just need to remember this advice when we gas up once we get back to camping. Or as Glen noted, probably to just turn the fridge off when traveling and get rid of the concern.

You have to turn the propane off to travel on the BC Ferries so only makes sense to extend that safety precaution at all times when traveling.

With the 3 way fridge, are there concerns to be aware of if you run the fridge on DC while traveling? Does the fridge take the DC power from the trailer or the tow battery when plugged to trailer? If you stop for an hour or two to take a short hike or other, with the DC powering the fridge, could you quickly drain one of the batteries, and if so which one, trailer or tow?
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Well...This winter I left the furnace thermostat in the lowest on position and the propane bottles open after camping only to learn that after a cold front hit, it cycled on and off until the propane ran out.

Here's a goof I witnesed at a SP dump station yesterday. A guy across from me was teaching his wife how to dump the tanks. When he took off his cap, he learned that his black tank valve was open and they both got a suprize. I really not sure he is still alive.
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The 3-way fridge will get power from the alternator on the tow vehicle. However, there won't be enough left over to charge up your trailer batterie(s).
And, you need to have a #10 gauge ground wire to deliver enough power to the fridge.
As for stopping for lunch, with the fridge on DC, don't - according to all the posts I've read on the subject.
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...With the 3 way fridge, are there concerns to be aware of if you run the fridge on DC while traveling? Does the fridge take the DC power from the trailer or the tow battery when plugged to trailer? If you stop for an hour or two to take a short hike or other, with the DC powering the fridge, could you quickly drain one of the batteries, and if so which one, trailer or tow?
If your tow vehicle does not have an isolation relay, both batteries will drain, although a short stop won't kill your batteries. A couple of hours will, so for long stops, switch to propane. I have seen reports of dead batteries on both the tow vehicle & trailer when owners left the trailer & tow connected & on 12V overnight.

While I have a 2 way refrigerator, I added an isolation relay to the RAV4 that shuts off the feed to the trailer when the vehicle ignition is off. Some trucks come with an isolation relay already installed. It is probably worth checking to see if pin 4 on your 7 way trailer connector shuts off with the ignition.
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We are definitely with you on that, Glenn. To many of us, the mistake is not forgetting to turn off the propane at a gas station but having it on while driving. I feel sure without seeing many propane appliance manuals that they all say to turn off the propane for driving. There are about 4000 RV fires per year, many of which are refrigerator, one of the biggest categories that Good Sam is called about. I can only guess that most of them involve propane. From posts on it, you can see that people do forget to turn off the propane. I am surprised that the insurance companies even cover such incidents, assuming they do. We use a little cooler with ice packs.



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I turn off the gas at the tanks as part of my to-do list prior to moving out.
Ice cream in the freezer compartment was only somewhat soft after 5 hrs. Wasn't 90 degrees F out though.
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I feel sure without seeing many propane appliance manuals that they all say to turn off the propane for driving.
In contrast I read my manuals, and have never seen a statement to this effect. If someone has, please share the appliance model and documentation source - I would be genuinely interested.

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There are about 4000 RV fires per year, many of which are refrigerator, one of the biggest categories that Good Sam is called about. I can only guess that most of them involve propane.
Since those fires are usually while stationary, the obvious conclusion is that we should not use our refrigerators on propane while camped.
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