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Old 05-20-2015, 03:00 PM   #21
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At one time I owned 2 FJ40's, am down to only one now, a '74. I was really hot to get one of the new FJ's when they were announced, but after the test drive and experiencing the limited visibility, I lost interest. I'm sure people can get used to it, but with the wide open visibility of the older models, I guess I was spoiled. Of course, I could NEVER tow a travel trailer with the FJ40.
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:11 PM   #22
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I assume that your FJ does not have a back-up camera? The factory installed back-up camera in my 2011 FJ allows me to back in to the correct spot on my own with only a "stop and check moment" to confirm the final placement.
I'll second the usefulness of a good backup camera. When we were in Idaho on our way back to Texas, a very "helpful" fellow camper insisted on giving me hand directions while I backed in to hook up. I think he got the idea that he wasn't needed when I was able to backup and stop dead center, with the ball ever so slightly in front of the receiver so that when I cranked down it slipped right on. Love the zoom feature!
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:56 PM   #23
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Sounds like your maiden voyage was fun!
I had to chuckle on the awning! Seems like during orientation, one can be present in body but not fully in mind. Too excited with your mind thinking ahead and all the information isn't retained.

That being said....while retracting the awning for the first time....I apparently didn't pay attention to the "guide it back slowly" part! That sucker retracted with a quickness...and slammed creating the loudest snap...we both ducked! Opps!

Thanks for your insights...every bit of information is truly appreciated!
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:31 PM   #24
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Just curious... what leveler did you buy at O'Connor RV?


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Here is a picture of the leveler. Lost the receipt but I think it was $30CDN. Almost nothing in $US.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:41 PM   #25
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At one time I owned 2 FJ40's, am down to only one now, a '74. I was really hot to get one of the new FJ's when they were announced, but after the test drive and experiencing the limited visibility, I lost interest. I'm sure people can get used to it, but with the wide open visibility of the older models, I guess I was spoiled. Of course, I could NEVER tow a travel trailer with the FJ40.
You will love this photo. Taken on a trip to Oman while I lived in the Emirates. And yes it was running.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:04 PM   #26
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Congratulations on your new Escape.
I'm curious what kind of mileage you get towing the 19 with the FJ. Mine totally sucked the fuel towing the 17B, granted it was all in the mountains. I got 250 to 300 km/ tank compared to usual 440/ 450.
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I'm curious what kind of mileage you get towing the 19 with the FJ. Mine totally sucked the fuel towing the 17B, granted it was all in the mountains. I got 250 to 300 km/ tank compared to usual 440/ 450.
I get about 22-25 impg not towing and about 14-16 impg towing.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:11 AM   #28
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I'm curious what kind of mileage you get towing the 19 with the FJ. Mine totally sucked the fuel towing the 17B, granted it was all in the mountains. I got 250 to 300 km/ tank compared to usual 440/ 450.
That seems reasonable to me, even on flat land. If the 17B was 1500 kg, and the FJ about 2000 kg, that's 75% more weight, substantially more frontal area (for drag), and two more tires... and about 60% more fuel consumed.

The only vehicles which don't see a substantial fuel consumption increase when adding a trailer nearly as large as the tug are those that are not operating efficiently when unloaded, such as big pickups that go from lousy fuel economy (unloaded) to not much lousier (loaded).
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:18 AM   #29
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The only vehicles which don't see a substantial fuel consumption increase when adding a trailer nearly as large as the tug are those that are not operating efficiently when unloaded, such as big pickups that go from lousy fuel economy (unloaded) to not much lousier (loaded).
How would you define substantial?
Our 17 B & our Sprinter van are almost identical in volume, and the 9 to 10 l/100km unloaded only increases to 10-12 l/100km when towing. We are pretty happy with the cost per km of hauling our trailer.
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How would you define substantial?
Our 17 B & our Sprinter van are almost identical in volume, and the 9 to 10 l/100km unloaded only increases to 10-12 l/100km when towing. We are pretty happy with the cost per km of hauling our trailer.
Sprinters are an awesome vehicle and I have been keeping an eye out for one the past couple years.

Given the size of the Sprinter, towing a 17B would probably not change the frontal area, and there would be very little change in wind resistance to impact your mileage. Also, Sprinters have diesel engines and are a favorite of many who use them for commercial and personal use. Your experience with only a small increase in fuel consumption while towing is entirely consistent with what I would expect from your trailer-tug combination.
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