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Old 02-21-2015, 03:21 PM   #11
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Also should have mentioned that the package from M4 included a beer can cooler sleeve or whatever you call these things, enjoying a beer right now in it.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:22 PM   #12
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No I am not lying on the ground drinking the beer i have trouble managing attachments (and it's only been one beer)
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:25 PM   #13
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A 194 incandescent lamp produces 25 Lumens. It is difficult to compare this to a generic SMD5050 LED chip (the one the description states is used in the Amazon lamp) since they can be different color temperatures, driven at different voltages, etc but a typical 6000K color temperature LED (which is quite blue compared to the 3000K color temperature of an incandescent 194) SMD5050 produces 12~13 Lumens. Since there are 5 of them on the lamp, you can expect about 60 Lumens which is a little over 2X the brightness of the incandescent lamp.
Well explained, Jon, and that all sounds right to me. I saw another 5-LED wedge base unit claiming 75 lumen output, which might be plausible.

Even if the 5-LED wedge base unit puts out 60 lumens are more, and is thus twice as bright as a typical 194, that might not be bright enough to be satisfactory in an RV interior lamp, which would normally use something between a 918 and 921 rather than a 194...
Sylvania Incandescent Miniature / Automotive Light Bulb #194: 25 lumens
GE Incandescent Miniature / Automotive Light Bulb #918: 82 lumens
GE Incandescent Miniature / Automotive Light Bulb #921: 264 lumens

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Again, the number of & size of the LED chips doesn't indicate brightness. I have a single XML chip flashlight that produces 500 Lumens, and a 9 chip no name flashlight from Harbor Freight that produces less than 10 Lumens.
Absolutely, I have a few single-chip LED flashlights, and the brightest claims 800 to 900 lumens, which seems plausible to me.

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Brian I got the 921's I think they were 12.99 but buying 10 got one free
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It is also important in purchasing LED bulbs to watch the design. LED bulbs, unlike incandescent bulbs do not have the same reflective qualities. So if you use a round bulb like shown above for a license plate it will emit light all around, perfect for that application but not so good for a ceiling mounted fixture or under the range hood.

For installing in a ceiling fixture you want to use a "pancake" style bulb that will direct all the light emitted in a concentrated direction. There are may styles, both round and square, here is one option.

I believe the lumens for an ceiling bulb should be around 70 and I personally prefer the soft white version, however some areas may benefit from the bright white option.
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Old 02-21-2015, 04:35 PM   #16
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Also should have mentioned that the package from M4 included a beer can cooler sleeve or whatever you call these things, enjoying a beer right now in it.
Nice Adrian, although this may belong in the "A little bit of camper levity" thread.

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Absolutely, I have a few single-chip LED flashlights, and the brightest claims 800 to 900 lumens, which seems plausible to me.
Yes it is. The wife just bought me a Duracell Flashlight at Costco that has 1000 lumens - single chip. Even came with 4 C cell batteries, for 15 bucks. Nice flashlight.
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I was not suggesting to use these in your interior lights, I assume everyone already has the LED interior package. But the little night light in the stove is not led not are the license plate lights, these are for those items, not to read by. Also the little marker lights are wedge if you have the non led exterior lights.
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I was not suggesting to use these in your interior lights, I assume everyone already has the LED interior package. But the little night light in the stove is not led not are the license plate lights, these are for those items, not to read by.
And that's exactly what I'll be using them for.
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... the little night light in the stove...
Ah, I misinterpreted "stove top lights" as the stove hood, not the stove itself
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