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Old 05-25-2017, 08:23 PM   #1
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Replacing 120V outlet with 120V/USB port outlet

Has anyone replaced the 120V outlet in their Escape with a combination 120V/USB port outlet?
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Old 05-25-2017, 08:29 PM   #2
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Has anyone replaced the 120V outlet in their Escape with a combination 120V/USB port outlet?
Yes we have 2 . One by the bed , another under refrigerator . Both the USB port and the 120 work great . Ours has a little green light when you use the USB . The USB will only work if you have 120 hook ups . We have another under dinette that is 12 volt . So everything is covered for charging . I think our combo is Cooper and bought them on Amazon . Pat
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The problem is that Escape is now using special 120v outlets that are hard to replace with conventional outlets. If you know where, just have Escape add an extra 12v USB outlet, you can use these without hookups.
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The problem is that Escape is now using special 120v outlets that are hard to replace with conventional outlets. If you know where, just have Escape add an extra 12v USB outlet, you can use these without hookups.
Curious what kind of special outlets ? Pat
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They are Self Contained Devices (SCD), which are receptacles which are their own enclosures, rather than a device which gets installed in a standard box. They also mount in a cutout in a panel, not requiring mounting to a stud or other structure.

Jim showed these in Prairie Schooner modifications, and a discussion followed.
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Yes, it certainly did. Personally I'm not a fan of these type of connections, but they are popular in the manufactured/mobile home industry. Using the specialized tool, it makes wiring multiple outlets much quicker.

I would prefer a conventionally wired outlet, since it's much easier to replace it if desired. Having no data concerning the quality of the connection, my opinion on that may not have much validity.


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Yes, it certainly did. Personally I'm not a fan of these type of connections, but they are popular in the manufactured/mobile home industry. Using the specialized tool, it makes wiring multiple outlets much quicker.

I would prefer a conventionally wired outlet, since it's much easier to replace it if desired. Having no data concerning the quality of the connection, my opinion on that may not have much validity.


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And it should be noted that the retail price of the special tool to install these outlets is somewhere in the vicinity of $600, U.S.
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They are Self Contained Devices (SCD), which are receptacles which are their own enclosures, rather than a device which gets installed in a standard box. They also mount in a cutout in a panel, not requiring mounting to a stud or other structure.

Jim showed these in Prairie Schooner modifications, and a discussion followed.
Thankyou Brian I had forgotten about this type of electrical installation . Glad it not's what we have . Pat
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Carl and Robert another item we don't have in our trailer and glad we don't . No special tool needed to install USB , 120 outlet . Couldn't you just cut opening bigger ,install box and use those wires to connect to the outlet you want ? Add a bit of framing if need be? I need guidance when it comes to some electrical , Not what I trained to do . Pat
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Carl and Robert another item we don't have in our trailer and glad we don't . No special tool needed to install USB , 120 outlet . Couldn't you just cut opening bigger ,install box and use those wires to connect to the outlet you want ? Add a bit of framing if need be? I need guidance when it comes to some electrical , Not what I trained to do . Pat
Yes, you can rewire any outlet, but the SCDs make it a bit more of a pain. I don't think the box is the issue, unless you have clearance issues behind it. The new box might require slightly enlarging the hole. There are also low profile or shallow boxes, and I've had good luck with those in areas where there's not much room behind it. If the wiring ends at said outlet, you could just disconnect and rewire using that end. But if it's passed through, you'd probably have to splice in some wire to be able to use a conventional outlet.

I'm also glad that mine are conventional. I've already replaced two receptacles for ones that have ac as well as usb, and it was a cinch.

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