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01-10-2017, 07:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 towed by F-150 with 2.7l eb, formerly Escape 17B 2017
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30 Amp Home Supply challenges.
Just realized that our new 17B trailer due at the end of the month will require a 30 Amp power supply to plug in to at home and we don't have one. Adding one would require a fair degree of effort, because it means adding a new circuit to the main electrical panel, adding a receptacle to the outside wall of the house, as well as a 50 foot run of the appropriate gauge cable extension cord as the only convenient external wall to the electric panel is nowhere near where the trailer will be stored.
Thinking about the power draw of the systems that the trailer uses, the only two high power users would be the water heater and the AC. As our trailer does't have AC and we wouldn't be using the trailer's water heater at home, the only power being used would be to keep the batteries charged, for lighting or maybe the fridge just prior to taking off for a trip. I am thinking that maybe to avoid a huge effort to install a receptacle, I could somehow construct an electrical cord with a 30 amp female plug at one end, that plugs into the 15 Amp receptacle that I currently have where the trailer will be parked when not being used.
Does anyone have any experience with this? I recognize that this is probably not ideal, but might work as a reasonable alternative.
Thanks Much.
Chris
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01-10-2017, 07:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: 2013 Casita (Sold) 2017 Escape 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris & Patricia
Just realized that our new 17B trailer due at the end of the month will require a 30 Amp power supply to plug in to at home and we don't have one. Adding one would require a fair degree of effort, because it means adding a new circuit to the main electrical panel, adding a receptacle to the outside wall of the house, as well as a 50 foot run of the appropriate gauge cable extension cord as the only convenient external wall to the electric panel is nowhere near where the trailer will be stored.
Thinking about the power draw of the systems that the trailer uses, the only two high power users would be the water heater and the AC. As our trailer does't have AC and we wouldn't be using the trailer's water heater at home, the only power being used would be to keep the batteries charged, for lighting or maybe the fridge just prior to taking off for a trip. I am thinking that maybe to avoid a huge effort to install a receptacle, I could somehow construct an electrical cord with a 30 amp female plug at one end, that plugs into the 15 Amp receptacle that I currently have where the trailer will be parked when not being used.
Does anyone have any experience with this? I recognize that this is probably not ideal, but might work as a reasonable alternative.
Thanks Much.
Chris
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Hi Chris, they sell just what you're looking for at Walmart or Camping World. Also available on Amazon.
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01-10-2017, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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You do not need 30 amp, I'm using a 15 amp outdoor receptacle and have been for past 6 years. I leave the trailer plugged in 24/7. Other than the a/c there is no issue and I have used the a/c occasionally. Make sure it is a GFCI outlet with a cover, I use a 10' extension w/and adapter. like one of these https://www.amazon.com/NU-SET-dogbon...15+amp+adapter
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01-10-2017, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: Middle, Tennessee
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ETI will (or used too) supply you with a 30 to 15 amp adapter for the end of your cord. If not you can get one at Wal-Mart.
It will look something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-55223-1...amp+rv+adapter
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01-10-2017, 07:54 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 (Serenity).
Posts: 73
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Whew - this question prompted me to check the electrical panel in the basement. I learned that we have the capacity to add a 30 A circuit in the garage, using existing lines (two conductors, 40 A per conductor).
We don't have AC in the house, but on the rare occasion when it is >35 C and we are not camping, we're likely to retreat to the trailer for its AC.
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01-10-2017, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
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Or pick up one of these for about $5.00 next time you're at Walmart:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Road-Powe...apter/16817350
But that leaves your camper's 30 amp cord exposed to the elements when in use.
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01-10-2017, 08:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Hellertown, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Scamp 16, TV Rav4 V6
Posts: 100
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I use a 30amp ext. cord with adapter for 20amp plug. You can buy the 30 amp cord from Walmart or Amazon for $30- $50 bucks. Then i take it with me when camping, just incase. Carl
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01-10-2017, 09:32 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
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Unless I'm missing something that is the wrong adapter. You need 30 amp female (to accept the trailer plug) to 15 amp male to plug into the extension cord end like the one Kountrycamper linked above.
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01-10-2017, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Seatac, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kountrykamper
ETI will (or used too) supply you with a 30 to 15 amp adapter for the end of your cord.
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I got one when I picked up our trailer on Black Friday. It's in use right now.
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01-10-2017, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
You do not need 30 amp, I'm using a 15 amp outdoor receptacle and have been for past 6 years. I leave the trailer plugged in 24/7. Other than the a/c there is no issue and I have used the a/c occasionally. Make sure it is a GFCI outlet with a cover, I use a 10' extension w/and adapter. like one of these https://www.amazon.com/NU-SET-dogbon...15+amp+adapter
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Please make sure the outlet is GFCI as Jim indicated above. Be sure to test it! The electric water heater element burned out and failed hot-to-ground on our trailer which electrified the frame. Coupled with a damaged ground prong on an extension cord and plugged into a regular outlet the trailer was allowed to operate and my father became the ground path and was shocked on the stabilizer. As soon as the trailer was plugged into a GFCI outlet it would trip which is exactly the protection it is supposed to afford and tells you that something is wrong. Anyone that says it is normal for a trailer to trip a GFCI outlet is not correct. I think the water heater element failing as it did is a strange exception but weird stuff can happen with electricity nonetheless.
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01-10-2017, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Unless I'm missing something that is the wrong adapter. You need 30 amp female (to accept the trailer plug) to 15 amp male to plug into the extension cord end like the one Kountrycamper linked above.
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You are correct. I clicked on the wrong image. This one should be the correct one. On sale for $2.79.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Road-Powe...Y1cV4hiHoceqBY
We're all talking about the same thing....
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01-10-2017, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Fremont, California
Trailer: 2016 21/ '16 Tundra 4.6L Dbl. Cab
Posts: 1,563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kountrykamper
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That's right, Tom. Ours came Standard from ETI in April '16.
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01-10-2017, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
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Thanks for clarifying. Didn't want Chris blindly ordering from your first link and standing there excited to plug in only to find he had the wrong adapter. If ETI is supplying these adapters now with a new trailer then it sounds like he doesn't need to worry.
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01-10-2017, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
If ETI is supplying these adapters now with a new trailer then it sounds like he doesn't need to worry.
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Not certain, but I think it is just when you get a starter kit. At least that was the case in 2009.
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01-10-2017, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 17B "Voyager"
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Is there a one-piece cord that goes from 30 amps to 15? I used an adapter but had it near the trailer and exposed to the elements, so it might be better to get a 30 Amp cord and then put the adapter at the inside end (in the garage or a covered outdoor receptacle.) I hadn't thought of that before but it makes sense.
I guess this is what I need but with a longer cord.
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01-10-2017, 11:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
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If you have the removable power cord option, you can purchase a Marinco twist lock to 15 amp adapter, or, make your own for less. I carry one I made as a way to keep a spare Marinco twist lock connector (sometimes hard to find on the road) as well as a way to use a standard extension cord when plugged into a 15 amp receptacle. If you make your own, the cord can be as long as you wish - I'd use at least a #12 cable.
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01-10-2017, 12:04 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Thank you to all that responded, I knew that it wouldn't take long to get an answer. Some of you guys must live on the forum 24/7!
We in Canada can't always shop on Amazon or Walmart US websites, however, a quick search on Amazon.ca revealed a similar product can be had cheaply. However, I will e-mail ETI to see whether anything is included on delivery or with the starter kit.
PS, it seems that any question always generates useful comments for others too, so no question appears to be a dumb question!
Chris Young
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01-10-2017, 12:09 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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North Shore RV is just down the hill from you, and so is Walmart. No guarantee Walmart will have the adapter, but NSRV will.
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01-10-2017, 12:15 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
North Shore RV is just down the hill from you, and so is Walmart. No guarantee Walmart will have the adapter, but NSRV will.
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Thanks, I keep on forgetting as I was aware of them from previous days of towing a tent trailer. As to Walmart, I wouldn't really expect them to carry anything in the way of RV supplies, Canadian Tire might almost be a better option.
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01-10-2017, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Walmart does have a small section of RV stuff in the Automotive area.
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