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Old 01-27-2016, 04:00 AM   #11
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Hey Jimbo...

Good on you... I knew this was going to happen... it was just a matter of when... like Bennett in Calgary... a 5.0TA is the way to go...

However with the winters that you have had the last couple of years, I suggest that you name your 5.0TA either "Snowbank" or "Snowdrift" instead of "Blackjack"

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Old 01-27-2016, 06:58 AM   #12
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My windows in the loft are awning style and I am very happy I have them rather than fixed windows. I love the fresh air - in almost any temperature. There is some insulation overhead but not the foam. I believe I read someplace eon the Forum a few days ago that they use something special for the ceiling cover. Not sure what it is but there is some insulation there. Yes, there is storage space along the sides of the bed. I store a lot of clothes and (I'm a pillow hog) pillows there. In effect, if I should roll over that far there is no 'falling out of bed' - so to speak.
I also have the awning opening windows and love them.
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:30 AM   #13
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Mike,
With your 2014 Ram, what position did Escape make the suspension, over or under and are there clearance issues, I have the Quad cab not the bigger crew cab model.
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:36 AM   #14
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What about insulation under the bed?
None.

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Looks like just the carpet, but a couple of the build pictures make it look like the floor could be a plywood sandwich, which would leave room for some insulation. Hard to tell. See the first 2 pics below.
The build photos show that the sleeping platform extends rearward into the trailer interior over the storage (including propane) compartments. I think there's also a lip, but not a thick structure continuing under the mattress.

I believe that it is carpet, directly on plywood, directly on the lower fiberglass shell, which rests on the (raised portion of) the frame... with no space between the layers.

Insulation (such as foam board) could be added externally, at least between the frame rails, but it would be quite visible so some suitable surface finish would be desirable.

Internally, an insulating foam panel - presumably topped by another carpet layer - could be placed on the floor, then the mattress on top of that, at the expense of headroom.
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Old 01-27-2016, 12:37 PM   #15
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We have camped down into the single digits and have not noticed any frost or condensation underneath the mattress. We are using hypervent underneath the mattress and a 12 volt mattress warmer between the mattress and the gel topper. Have not really noticed any problems with cold intrusion. (The open sides by bed really help with air circulation). I do have a roll of reflectix that I planned on installing but have yet felt a need to do it.

Our previous camper had absolutely no insulation under the mattress and we use to get water underneath the mattress from the body heat hitting the cold surface, the reflectix totally fixed it. Scott

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Old 01-27-2016, 01:30 PM   #16
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Mike,
With your 2014 Ram, what position did Escape make the suspension, over or under and are there clearance issues, I have the Quad cab not the bigger crew cab model.
I also have the quad cab, no clearance issues at all. The leaf springs are mounted in the upper hole, if that is what you were asking about? If I am looking at it correctly, mounting in the lower hole will raise the trailer a few inches.

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Old 01-27-2016, 01:42 PM   #17
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Okay, I understand that now, I thought they flipped the spring over to change the height, but it makes sense to have an adjustable mount, easy to raise or lower by removing a bolt.
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Old 01-27-2016, 01:46 PM   #18
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Okay, I understand that now, I thought they flipped the spring over to change the height, but it makes sense to have an adjustable mount, easy to raise or lower by removing a bolt.
Yes, that's exactly how I see it.
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I believe that it is carpet, directly on plywood, directly on the lower fiberglass shell, which rests on the (raised portion of) the frame... with no space between the layers.
There has to be air space between the loft floor and the bottom of the loft fiberglass. The bottom of the nose is not flat. Looking at this picture of Alf's 5er, I'm betting the plywood is just a bit below the belly band. I basing that on what I remember where the bottom of the window was to the floor in Ten Forward.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:56 PM   #20
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Of course if Alf is in the bed it may be lower than normal....
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