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Old 05-25-2014, 06:27 PM   #11
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I too wished we had wiring diagrams and have emailed ETI requesting same a month ago but that request has probably faded to the bottom of the pile. Our 17B has a major short in the circuitry going to the porch light (immediately blows a 15amp fuse), and Reace had me pull the screws from the upper fridge vent to check if one was in the wires; no luck. While we are under warranty, ETI is a return ferry away from us, so going back to the factory for this one and only problem is not practical from financial stance. That wiring diagram would certainly assist in tracing the wires going to that porch light as it also involves the switch in the doorway. I know this is not a big deal overall, just an annoyance, it would be nice if we could use the light, so I will be bugging ETI once again to remind them of my request.
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:33 PM   #12
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This isn't a definitive answer, but my recollection is that when we picked up the 17b, we were told that for the break-away switch to be working, the battery disconnect switch must be set to that the batteries are NOT disconnected.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:55 PM   #13
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The Escape manual (http://escapetrailer.com/wp-content/...nersManual.pdf ) answers some of the issues mentioned on this thread.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:46 PM   #14
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I think you need it on for towing so everything works. Use it when parked for long periods.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:31 PM   #15
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The Escape manual (http://escapetrailer.com/wp-content/...nersManual.pdf ) answers some of the issues mentioned on this thread.
Thank you Linda. That, I believe is the answer. I do not have the new much more comprehensive owners' manual. I will be downloading it.

I agree that a wiring diagram would be most helpful..but I would think a basic one would have to be utilized because of all the individual modifications.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:49 AM   #16
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I see no point in trying to run the breakaway brake system from tow vehicle power, since if the tug is still connected it hasn't broken away and the regular brake controller still works.

It also makes no sense to me for the cutoff switch to disable the breakaway system, because the breakaway system uses zero power when not tripped; the point of a cutofff is usually to avaid parasitic loads, and the breakaway switch isn't one of those. It also seems risky to allow the user to - deliberately or accidentally - disable the breakaway system.

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I was under the impression new trailer were required to have the brakeaway switches that have their own battery, as opposed to the older models that use the trailers 12v.
I've never heard of that, I've never seen a trailer with separate batteries, and it seems to me that sharing the same battery is a good way to ensure that the breakaway system is connected to a maintained battery... another battery for just the brakes could easily be ignored.

On the other hand, lots of rules get made, some of which make little sense.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:38 AM   #17
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Here is what one looks like. Might just be for trailers that do not normally carry a battery.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:50 AM   #18
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I imagine some flat bed, open, construction trailers would need one of those….
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Wouldn't the simple way to answer the question be to turn the master switch to "off", disconnect the trailer from the tow vehicle, engage the breakaway switch by pulling the pin and seeing what happens?

If the brakes come on, then the master switch does not disable the breakaway switch and there is no problem. If the master switch does disable the breakaway switch, then you need to make sure the breakaway switch is turned "on" when traveling or there will be no emergency braking.

We don't have a master switch on our trailer. The breakaway switch has only activated when I had not left enough slack in the breakaway switch attachment cable. I turned a sharp corner and the brake came on. The solution was to make sure there was enough slack in the cable.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:10 AM   #20
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Here is what one looks like. Might just be for trailers that do not normally carry a battery.
Yes, exactly.

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I imagine some flat bed, open, construction trailers would need one of those….
Yes, plus enclosed cargo trailers, car trailers, boat trailers, livestock (horse) trailers... anything that has electric brakes and no other battery. Many of these types of trailer traditionally had surge brakes (some still do) and of course very large trailers have air brakes (so no battery required in either case), but electric brakes are now common in all types.
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