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Old 12-13-2017, 07:18 AM   #1
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Will the Champion 2000watt generator run the AC in my 2016 21' Escape? Will use to charge battery and maybe run AC when temps are uncomfortable. I'm not interested in the Honda or Yamaha brands or prices. Rural King has the Champion on sale for $399. What say ye?
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Will the Champion 2000watt generator run the AC in my 2016 21' Escape? Will use to charge battery and maybe run AC when temps are uncomfortable. I'm not interested in the Honda or Yamaha brands or prices. Rural King has the Champion on sale for $399. What say ye?
Our Honda 2000i seems barely up to the task so I’d be doubtful the Champion would do the job. Honda are pricey, but for something as important as AC, we bit the bullet and paid the premium.
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What's the surge and running wattage?
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:13 AM   #4
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2000watts peak power; 1700watts running.
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:41 AM   #5
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Since you appear not to be concerned with noise levels and price is the motivating factor , check out Menards . They recently had a 4000 watt open frame , contractors generator on sale for $189.99.
You may not be the hit of the campgrounds but it is cheap and it will run your A/C
I also would not spend the money for a Honda or Yamaha generator, mainly because I am cheap and believe generators are better suited for construction sites then campsites.
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2000watts peak power; 1700watts running.
Going just by the numbers, you should be okay. My honda 2k is 1600 watts.

Fwiw, running the a/c had nothing to do with me getting a 2000, if it were I would have gone with the Yamaha 2300, I think it's 2300. I'd rather have a little extra then just enough, kind of like my truck.
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:13 AM   #7
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Steve, let me educate you on the finer points of the Champion 2000watt. I'm not cheap, nor am I a contractor. I do not need a 4000 watt, open frame contractor grade generator that weighs much more than the 49lbs. the Champion does and sure to make way more noise than the 52dbs the Champion does. Although the $189 Menards bargain would surely power the AC, I'm not interested. But if and when I have the opportunity to camp next to you, I may have to make an exception. Thanks for the opportunity.
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:23 AM   #8
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I got the WEN 2000 for $370 on a woot deal. Having run both the Honda and Wen they are comparable in every way except price is ridiculously better for the WEN. Used it for a year now and it’s a workhorse.
The specs on the Champion seem good, but I’d be suspicious of the 52dbs as the Champions I’ve heard running are usually pretty loud. If you could hear it run first and it appears to be legit then sounds like it would be good. Is the Champion an inverter generator?
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Will the Champion 2000watt generator run the AC in my 2016 21' Escape? Will use to charge battery and maybe run AC when temps are uncomfortable. I'm not interested in the Honda or Yamaha brands or prices. Rural King has the Champion on sale for $399. What say ye?
We went ahead and bit the bullet and bought the Honda. It is pricey but as a retired mechanic I know I will always be able to find parts and service for it. As little as we have used our Honda though $399 would be tempting.
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If noise is not a factor then the 2000 watts should be adequate but not great for the AC. On both my power boat and my 5 TA I run two Honda 2000 generators wired in parallel. I just transfer the units between the 2.
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Greg, yes, it's an inverter generator. If I decide to buy it, I can return it if I think it's too loud. The specs said 52 dbs at 23 ft. Normal conversation level is 60. I know it will be louder under load; but, it has gotten great reviews and it has a 3 yr. warranty. You probably couldn't even hear it while tailgating.
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Greg, yes, it's an inverter generator. If I decide to buy it, I can return it if I think it's too loud. The specs said 52 dbs at 23 ft. Normal conversation level is 60. I know it will be louder under load; but, it has gotten great reviews and it has a 3 yr. warranty. You probably couldn't even hear it while tailgating.
I own the first gen yellow machine (1600 running/2000 peak). It did not run the AC when I tried once at 1200' altitude. In hindsight I could have tried feathering the fan to get it rotating before making the compressor kick in, but didn't at know the trick at that time.

The plan was to buy a second unit and slave it for the 3200running wattage. Never did need the AC (yet!).


It is quiet while idling and relatively mild when at full throttle, like when I plug the coffee maker in. Overall, a great "not a red, not a blue" generator for the price.
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I also would not spend the money for a Honda or Yamaha generator, mainly because I am cheap and believe generators are better suited for construction sites then campsites.
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Agree with you that to be effective two of these generators wired together would be an option
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Everything you ever wanted to know and more about inverter generators. Reviews for all the major players that are now out there competing with Honda and Yamaha. One is no longer stuck with either a "2000W" or "3000W" choice. Some of the competing manufacturers have a higher rated running load than the 1600W for similar weight of the Honda EU2000 and Yamaha EF2000. Might be just enough for someone who is worried about being on the edge especially at altitude.

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The other consideration is to modify the trailer A/C unit to run on 2000w or less. The A/C units used by Escape are only slightly more demanding than what a typical 2000w can handle. And, it turns out, that peak demand only occurs for a few seconds when the compressor cycle starts. There is a $300 modification that can be made the A/C unit that smooths out the current demand, thereby making the A/C run easily on a 2000w generator. I am planning on making this mod myself (I just got my 21 in late November) on my A/C unit. Then, like others have said, I can use the smaller, lighter weight 2000w Champion. The 3000w are then overkill and much harder to lift and handle.
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The other consideration is to modify the trailer A/C unit to run on 2000w or less. The A/C units used by Escape are only slightly more demanding than what a typical 2000w can handle. And, it turns out, that peak demand only occurs for a few seconds when the compressor cycle starts. There is a $300 modification that can be made the A/C unit that smooths out the current demand, thereby making the A/C run easily on a 2000w generator. I am planning on making this mod myself (I just got my 21 in late November) on my A/C unit. Then, like others have said, I can use the smaller, lighter weight 2000w Champion. The 3000w are then overkill and much harder to lift and handle.
I did run ours on a 2000 Honda this summer. I think as long as you don't run anything else (especially the onboard charger) it works ok. I ran it through the onboard EMS after making a ground to neutral bonding plug. I do agree, with my back I can't lift much more than the Honda 2000.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:22 PM   #18
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I believe the bigger question is does your AC unit have soft start feature. If not you should be able to add it as many Casita and ETI owners have.

Soft start feature seems to be the difference why some work on 2000 watt and others don't. Not sure when ETI started seller the AC units with soft start I'm sure others on the forum can answer that question.

Just something to consider.
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How does one know if they have soft start?
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I have not heard of the soft start on the AC. Is this feature on all the new units?
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