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Old 01-28-2016, 08:30 PM   #1
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Escape 21 Installation: Surge Protector Location

I'm getting my new 21 ready for its first voyage next month and decided to add some goodies. It was too late to add them to my build list when I finally made a decision.

Could anyone show me where Escape wired the surge protector under the seat and how it is connected to the electrical system? A couple of photos would do the job I think. I DO NOT have the u-shaped seating.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:02 PM   #2
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I installed one in my Escape 19, you have to go where the wire enters the trailer and goes to the converter/fuse box. In the 21 that is under your street side rear dinette seat. This where you cut the wire and install the Progressive "in line" before the electric gets to your fuse/converter. The wire may be colored different, like green or orange as it is 30 amp wiring. Follow the instruction provided by Progressive in mounting and wiring, very easy. Remember to unplug while working and when you plug back in, there is a 2 minute delay while Progressive analyzes your circuits.
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:55 PM   #3
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Thanks. I was trying to find the "preferred" location by Escape. I ended up finding a cozy place that was out of the way and the leads ran efficiently. One down and ....
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good, post pictures if your accomplishment....
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Go here to find instructions with screen capture illustrations:

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Old 01-30-2016, 11:49 AM   #6
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Photo of Install

And it works!
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File this under "Just Curious..." I don't have a surge protector but have been thinking about adding one. I have seen them selling for as much as $350. Can anyone tell me why the $49 one you attach to your shore power plug is not the better choice?
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First off, that is only a surge/spike protector whereas the Progressive protects over and under voltage, surge/spike, and miswired cg pedestals.
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Ok, I can see that's important. Guess the next question is what are the odds? I suppose it would be essential ...if I had a 3o foot Montana loaded with 50 amp appliances.
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Well, let's see, your refer can blow a circuit board, your converter can fry and your a/c can burn up on low voltage, anything else you want damaged? How about anything you plug into a misfired outlet, like your tv or computer?
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That $49 surge protector appears to have LEDs for indicating miswiring. My understanding is that only air conditioning is at risk from low voltage.
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That $49 surge protector appears to have LEDs for indicating miswiring. My understanding is that only air conditioning is at risk from low voltage.
Our surge protector cut the power a couple of times due to low voltage while we were staying at Dead Horse Point State PArk in Utah in +100 deg temps while using the AC. May have prevented costly damage to the AC unit.
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I added a permanently mounted protector for security. No one can walk away with it. As mentioned, it protects the electrical integrity of your trailer. I purchased the shown unit for $187.50 plus $11.89 shipping from Best RV and Truck Supply, LLC. It was a simple install. The one with the remote display is a bit more.
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Sure not looking for a rationale for dumping my RM8551. Also thought fuses in the converter was enough protection there. I'm all for protection. Yes, secure it ain't. Here's what that $49 unit claims to do. Seems to have the prime issues covered, perhaps excepting in some 3rd world countries.
Note: I was reading a review of another, similar type unit by a different manufacturer and sold at CampingWorld (cough-spit) that claimed theirs "melted" right after the warranty expired.


  • Protect your electrical equipment from improperly wired electrical boxes
  • Diagnostic lights indicate faults before you connect your electrical cord
  • Voltage analyzer with surge protection up to 1050 Joules
  • 30 Amp Male (NEMA TT-30P)/30 Amp Female (NEMA TT-30R)
  • Contoured grip makes unplugging easier
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If the 'Vacancy' sign at the entrance to the park is flickering and only half lit, I'd not plug in.
I have a $9 circuit tester, but it only plugs into a grounded household outlet, so I've not actually used it on the road.
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Guess the next question is what are the odds? I suppose it would be essential ...if I had a 3o foot Montana loaded with 50 amp appliances.
I've never heard of a 50 amp appliance in an RV. Even in RVs with 50-amp service (which allows 240-volt appliances), 240 volts is very rarely used. Although large RVs often have more power demand, it is mostly due to more of the same kind of stuff found in smaller RVs, so the risks are the same; for instance, the 30 amp service in an Escape will run the small (11,000 BTU/hr) air conditioner plus some other stuff, while a large trailer or motorhome will often have two larger (13,000 BTU/hr or more) air conditioners... but they both have air conditioners which could be damaged by low voltage.

The only appliance I've seen in a large RV that I haven't also seen in Escape-sized RVs is a clothes washer/dryer.
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Here you can do a side by side comparison
Progressive Industries RV Surge and Electrical Protection industry lea
lifetime guarantee also...
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The joules are higher, for one thing, on more expensive protectors, such as 1790 possibly for the one Escape sells. The other obvious problem is someone taking one plugged in outside. Some people get those because they have more than one unit or expect to get another unit. We gave our hard-wired one that we put in the 19' to our buyers as it is a feature they could definitely use, and we had Escape put one in the 21'.
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Myron, I'm with you. I'm not feeling the joy. I would like to read something factual and trust worthy about such protection, not anecdotal comments.

Coming from the computer industry I saw lots of snake oil being sold. With important equipment the perfect method of protecting equipment was to run it off a battery that was included. Local power just kept the battery charged, the second best option was to have a sensing system to switch to battery at an abnormality. The third best was to attempt to condition the power to keep it safe. And finally the infamous power strips and their joules that performed some sort of hocus pocus on monitoring and shutting down.

Is it necessary to make such a choice or are we in the arena of "extended warranties" that most consumer groups consider a poor purchase.
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I've never heard of a 50 amp appliance in an RV. .
Guess I should have said "...50 ampS of appliances".

Point is, since it's my money, was hoping to hear some comparative real-world results. I usually don't gamble unless I think the odds are in my favor. (Recent billion dollar Power Ball game excepted.)

After all, what are the chances someone is going to steal my stinky slinky, eh?
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