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Old 09-30-2010, 02:58 PM   #21
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The furnace is noisy. It's probably more to do with the small space, just as I find air conditioner very noisy in small space. Not sure if a quieter ones are available. I will use my furnace when I must.....boondocking for example. But I bought a neat little elect. heater at Walmat ($24.97). I had the same one in our Scamp for 3 years. Overheat shutoff and tipover shutoff. Thermostat control....750/1000/1500W variable. Very happy with it.

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Old 09-30-2010, 03:01 PM   #22
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Meanwhile, back to conserving electrons when boondocking-- Tammy had a good source for LED lights, so we outfitted our 19 with them when we picked it up. We're very happy with their electro-stinginess.


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Old 09-30-2010, 04:58 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Texscapees
We have the Pelonis B-6A1, Classic 4 Disc Ceramic Safety Furnace. .... We picked ours up at the Burlington, Washington Camping World last Oct on our return trip from Chilliwack.
We got the same model, the same store, the same month. Huh.

Anyway, the wife doesn't like the sound it makes. Prefers the loud furnace flame and fan. Go figure. I am fine with it.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:40 PM   #24
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I am glad you are asking these questions now. I think that you are starting to get an appreciation for the fact that batteries are a very limited power source. That's why electric cars are so rare.

If you have a 12-volt battery, and you want to run a 1000 watt appliance - like a hair dryer, toaster or heater - the current would be 83 amps. That is BIG current because of the low battery voltage. Your trailer wiring would not last long. Now, a typical battery can supply 1 amp for 140 hours (that is called 140 amp-hours). Or 83 amps for an hour and a half (although I am sure that could not really be acheived).

My notebook computer requires 90 watts at 20 volts, so I would need a converter to run it off my trailer batteries. Maybe it would be very efficient, and only require 8 amps. That means that continuous use of the computer, and nothing more, would drain that big heavy battery in 18 hours.

So you have to conserve power while boondocking. LEDs are great. Solar panels too. But you still have to watch your consumption, unless you get a generator. Doesn't mean you have to be miserly, just careful.

By the way, it was mentioned above but bears repeating that you have to order 12-volt outlets - they are not standard on Escape trailers. I wish I had a couple for charging camera batteries and running my computer.

Still, I suspect that full black-water tanks end more boondocking sessions than do dead batteries.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:01 PM   #25
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Regarding LED lights: We got a new model LED from from Escape, supposedly a bit brighter and more efficient than the older "warm white" LEDs. The color of the light is in the same range as fluorescent lights, and I dislike it. Reace was kind enough to offer to swap these our for the "yellower" emitters and I will report on them once we've tried 'em. We're going on a trial run this weekend so I'll have a chance to try our the more efficient bulbs before the yellower bulbs arrive.

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Old 09-30-2010, 08:10 PM   #26
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Hi: All...On the subject of "NOISE"...I suffer from Tinnitus so there is no quiet for ME!!! I find the furnace to be a non noise as is the MaxxFan or the A/C. I usually suffer from the quiet periods in the cycles.
A pair of foam earplugs helps and I have them at the ready...bedside.
The first time we used the furnace was in Virginia this spring. Cold wet night spent lotdocking at Tamarack in Beckley W.Va. Alf
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:14 PM   #27
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

Originally Posted by medora
Is one of the reasons for the secondary unit then that the installed unit is actually TOO hot?

Has anyone tried a Vornado Space Heater We have one in the house and like it quite a bit. Not sure what kind of power hog it is tho.

(I'll be in touch, Paul. Heard about a new cheesemaker near Dunbarton, I may need a fix)
E we have one of those Vornado's in our Escape and it does a great job. When we are somewhere with electricity we heat Blue with it. With the thermal windows and double insulation it is amazing how little heat we need. The LP furnace is quieter than the one we had in the Scamp, but you still know when it kicks in.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:29 PM   #28
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With dual propane tanks and a full battery, how many days would I get running my refer while dry camping?
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:36 PM   #29
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The fridge draws very little electricity while running on propane. So, that would leave the outside temp as a variable ( inside and outside the trailer ) and how many times you open it to get a beer.
I'm guessing a couple of months, if you don't run the furnace, hot water heater or use the stove.
No way to give you an answer. Too many variables.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:46 PM   #30
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The gas will last a long time & all your lights are LEDs (except in the range hood) so your solar panel should keep your battery going if you don't run your fan all the time - I'd say you're set for a week at the Redwood Gathering... I wish we were going.

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