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Old 10-05-2015, 12:27 PM   #101
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As I read this thread and the Escape quality thread I am noticing some owners who are very dissatisfied with their Escape trailers. When I was very dissatisfied with my Scamp I sold it and brought another brand. Right now there is a sellers market for Escape trailers based on talking to people who came to view them at the rally.

For owners truly dissatisfied with their trailer and ETI, used ones are easily sold at VERY good prices right now. There are lots of other manufacturers to check out
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:48 PM   #102
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I think that's a good idea! You're expected to check out the trailer to make sure things are the way they should be and both the top and bottom should be inspected. Although, if I looked underneath the trailer, I'm not sure if I'd notice anything was wrong. I'll leave that to the husband to look at.
HI Laura . When you go for your orientation you are very excited and a little overwhelmed.It is very easy to not see or hear many things . If you have your trailer delivered - you are in the moment - you aren't going to find things until you are alone with your trailer and settled down .You can have all the plans you want to inspect even written down and it all goes out the window . This is a very emotional experience. You have waited a long time . You are hoping everyone did there job right . I am sure Reace and Tammy feel the same way . They are depending on their workers doing what they are suppose to do how they want it done . Unfortunately, many don't unless you stand over them . Now Escape has to take care of these issues which many are not little or acceptable. Pat
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Old 10-05-2015, 01:03 PM   #103
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If you search print-through fiberglass you will find several articles generally pertaining to boats that describe where there is some distortion created. In this case it is due to the door frame being bonded to the shell. Had there been more mat between the two surfaces this may not have happened.
Edit: for a picture see Post #55 in the Escape Quality thread
Thanks. I did see that photo but didn't have any idea what I was looking at. Still not 100% sure, but I'll do a search later on, as you suggested. By "print-through" I was expecting words or images from underneath to be showing through the white finish. Which made even less sense to me. I'd be pretty bummed if my trailer had some distortion on it.
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Old 10-05-2015, 01:05 PM   #104
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HI Laura . When you go for your orientation you are very excited and a little overwhelmed.It is very easy to not see or hear many things . If you have your trailer delivered - you are in the moment - you aren't going to find things until you are alone with your trailer and settled down .You can have all the plans you want to inspect even written down and it all goes out the window . This is a very emotional experience. You have waited a long time . You are hoping everyone did there job right . I am sure Reace and Tammy feel the same way . They are depending on their workers doing what they are suppose to do how they want it done . Unfortunately, many don't unless you stand over them . Now Escape has to take care of these issues which many are not little or acceptable. Pat
Good points, Pat, thanks for commenting. Maybe I'll bring along a friend that knows a lot about RVs and since it's not her trailer she'll see stuff I'm too excited to notice. There will be plenty of time for her to get her passport renewed since we haven't even ordered one yet.
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Old 10-05-2015, 02:40 PM   #105
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Try placing a sheet of Saran wrap over the toilet, under the seat...
Taken out of context, this brings back some fond memories!
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Old 10-05-2015, 02:52 PM   #106
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I wouldn't really expect any different response. It's not a dimple first of all- it's clearly an impact. I feel misled when I first inquired about this. The comparison to an overspray on a new car to me is a desperate defense. How about this: you find on your new Mercedes Sprinter van a dent that also has resulted in a crack and they put a piece of tape over it and delivered it to you.

Had I run into a tree branch and this happened then yes, I would be looking to an effective remedy, and Proflex might be the solution. For a $34,000 trailer that was delivered like this I'm looking for something else.
Is the white gel coat cracked around the depression? It would take a huge amount of force to generate a depression like that - I could see dropping a pipe or a hammer from 3m, maybe but it would break the gel coat and probably cause some delamination internally.

It seems much more likely it is a molding defect caused by a bubble or some object left in the mold when the trailer was laid up, but if the gel coat is broken, you might actually have impact damage.

Regardless of the cause I think this is not a normal situation and overspray doesn't seem like a valid analogy.

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SlickHeadHunter, Lorrie & BillM,
I too made the grave error making a suggestion of what I thought could
be an improvement to an already great trailer in my post of introduction
see thread "Back on the Island"
- hence received little or no welcome to this site as I see most
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:23 PM   #108
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When I was very dissatisfied with my Scamp I sold it and brought another brand. Right now there is a sellers market for Escape trailers based on talking to people who came to view them at the rally. There are lots of other manufacturers to check out
Hi Rick,

Like you, I started with a Scamp, pre Escape era. I did not like seeing a sea of rivets (design issue) and seeing the garage floor through the trailer floor below when inside trailer, also through the closed entry door. Scamp just uses thicker not so sticky foam to hide that gap ( quality issues ).

Except for fiberglass defects discussed which are concerning, everything else is fixable by ETI or owner if so inclined. I keep these non fiberglass issues in perspective as the Escape is a mid priced RV and if their quality has dropped from the old days, remember that it could be due to us in the US paying thousands less at this time, ETI being bombarded with orders due to it being "on sale" at this time. So when I find a reasonable defect and I will because I invented pickiness, I will also remember the savings that helped contribute to the high demands which contributed to ETI's faster manufacturing pace. You can't have it both ways.

The Big Foot and Oliver are double hulled with good insulation in between. I don't believe they have the high demand Escape has at this time mainly because 1) the same size trailer weight a lot more which leads to purchasing a heftier tow vehicle and higher fuel costs and 2) their lower paced manufacturing process while presumably yielding higher quality also yields a trailer costing twice as much as comparable Escape. I don't know about many of you but I can not afford that level of quality due to slow paced build process. Remember when Escape enjoyed slow manufacturing in years past ?

So, for the price point and dry weight I agreed to and adding to that the great discount courtesy of the Canadian government, it will take serious fiberglass shell defects to stir me up. I will bring a ladder and flashlight and go through mine when the time comes with most all of the emphasis on the shell. Everything else is fixable.
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:32 PM   #109
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Taken out of context, this brings back some fond memories!
Understood. My daughter did that to grandma.
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My go-to for emergency repairs is Marine Goop.
The bath fan in our trailer also leaked . Marine Goop solved the problem.. Just make sure
you clean the area before apply Goop
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