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Old 10-05-2015, 03:44 PM   #111
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Hi Rick,

Like you, I started with a Scamp, pre Escape era. I did not like seeing a sea of rivets (design issue) and seeing the garage floor through the trailer floor below when inside trailer, also through the closed entry door. Scamp just uses thicker not so sticky foam to hide that gap ( quality issues ).

Except for fiberglass defects discussed which are concerning, everything else is fixable by ETI or owner if so inclined. I keep these non fiberglass issues in perspective as the Escape is a mid priced RV and if their quality has dropped from the old days, remember that it could be due to us in the US paying thousands less at this time, ETI being bombarded with orders due to it being "on sale" at this time. So when I find a reasonable defect and I will because I invented pickiness, I will also remember the savings that helped contribute to the high demands which contributed to ETI's faster manufacturing pace. You can't have it both ways.

The Big Foot and Oliver are double hulled with good insulation in between. I don't believe they have the high demand Escape has at this time mainly because 1) the same size trailer weight a lot more which leads to purchasing a heftier tow vehicle and higher fuel costs and 2) their better low paced manufacturing process while presumably yielding higher quality also yields a trailer costing twice as much as comparable Escape. I don't know about many of you but I can not afford that level of quality due to slow paced build process. Remember when Escape enjoyed slow manufacturing in years past ?

So, for the price point and dry weight I agreed to and adding to that the great discount courtesy of the Canadian government, it will take serious fiberglass shell defects to stir me up. I will bring a ladder and flashlight and go through mine when the time comes with most all of the emphasis on the shell. Everything else is fixable.
When we purchased ours 2013 we did not see the favorable exchange rates customers are seeing today and our wait was only 4 months . Luckily we do not have the issues some have . Luckily did not get the solar just pre solar and still on the fence for a roof install . We paid a lot more then current customers are paying now . We had and have some build issues . Some we just take care our shelves . That being said if I had some of the issues some have especially concerning the body of trailer I Would be livid for what I paid . I understand some of this frustration . Pat
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:58 PM   #112
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That being said if I had some of the issues some have especially concerning the body of trailer I Would be livid for what I paid . I understand some of this frustration . Pat
Agreed on the shell issues.

In my mind, the shell is king and why we go fiberglass. We all have our levels of comfort. I can dismiss a little wavy part here and there, a wrinkle where if does not show, etc. As Jim said, it adds character as no two shells come out the same. Where I think I would draw the line is having serious structural damage, cracks ,etc. I am no fiberglass expert but understand that damage can be repaired and made to look good as new. For a new under warranty trailer with that kind of damage, I would consider a guaranteed repair. Guaranteed against cracking, de-laminating, etc.

I too fully understand Ross's frustration with the hole that I assume penetrates the shell and has cracks around the periphery.
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:09 PM   #113
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I agree that if there were an issue with the shell that Escape should and would fix the issue or have it repaired. What I do not understand is why that has not been done. The owner is approximately 900 miles from the factory where it would be fixed at no cost or since he has hired an expert for an assessment, received an estimate for the repair. Why has it not been fixed?
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:20 PM   #114
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I too fully understand Ross's frustration with the hole that I assume penetrates the shell and has cracks around the periphery.
Why do you assume any of that? How did this blemish become a "hole"?

I assume that the yellow tape was there to indicate something that had to be fixed and that it wasn't done before the trailer was released. If you go around a new condo, you will find green masking tape all over the place indicating paint that needs attention, etc.
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:28 PM   #115
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Hi Glenn, I too know colorful tape is used to indicate something is in need of attention. Like post it notes for the construction industry. I think he suspects that blemish could be causing a leak ? At any rate it has to be looked at by ETI.
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Old 10-05-2015, 05:17 PM   #116
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Shouldn't any and all issues be directed to Escape Trailer Industries instead of grousing among one another.
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:13 PM   #117
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After reading this thread I feel I must be one of the lucky ones. We received our 19 on July29th, two days after our finish date, delivered to Medford Or. So far i have no issues with our trailer. We love it !! I guess that makes me a fan boy. Thank you Escape.
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:27 PM   #118
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I think most all new recent owners are lucky as well. Just because a real and likely rare fiberglass blemish has been reported that alone should not taint so many units going out ETI's door. As I said before if the shell is good, there is little to worry about. That's my take.
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:28 PM   #119
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Factory adjustments

I don't know about anyone else but for me, if the problem was not major and requiring immediate repair, I would notify ETI, make a appointment and go to the factory for the repair, and while there, probably get any upgrades done too. A guest in our trailer accidentally cracked a cover piece by our door. While at ETI for a solar install they fixed our crack with a total replacement for a very reasonable charge. Better than new. I like their work, love the trailer. As Pee Wee Herman said,"if you love it why don't you marry it?" I would but already have one steady girl. 45 years and counting. I ain't no sappy sage but I am a real nice guy and a hugger.
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:46 PM   #120
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The Escape 19 is my 9th camping box but my first with an on-line Forum dedicated to it. And we should all be on the same side of these posts, owners helping owners.

So this communication is new to me. What I notice it's just like a school yard and the same kids have become 'older' and some are adults .. and some like to be a kid again! Happens to me. As I said before some people are using a confronting style when a questioning style would be a lubricant for the discussion.
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