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Old 05-20-2018, 04:39 PM   #1
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No power when plugged into generator

So I pulled the trigger on the new Honda EU 2200i yesterday. Fired it up today and when plugged in to the 30 Amp recepticle no power to the camper. It was not on eco mode but made no difference. I followed instructions in Escape manual and turned off appliances, breaker, etc prior to unplugging and plugging in. After plugging back into shore power there is a long delay prior to AC power coming back on up and I had to toggle the battery disconnect. Any ideas? I've never used a generator on this camper so maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2018, 04:57 PM   #2
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So I pulled the trigger on the new Honda EU 2200i yesterday. Fired it up today and when plugged in to the 30 Amp recepticle no power to the camper. It was not on eco mode but made no difference. I followed instructions in Escape manual and turned off appliances, breaker, etc prior to unplugging and plugging in. After plugging back into shore power there is a long delay prior to AC power coming back on up and I had to toggle the battery disconnect. Any ideas? I've never used a generator on this camper so maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
Do you have the installed Progessive Industries surge suppressor? There is a bypass switch which you will need to switch the bypass off in order for the generator to work . It is on the front of the reamote Pat
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So I pulled the trigger on the new Honda EU 2200i yesterday. Fired it up today and when plugged in to the 30 Amp recepticle no power to the camper. It was not on eco mode but made no difference. I followed instructions in Escape manual and turned off appliances, breaker, etc prior to unplugging and plugging in. After plugging back into shore power there is a long delay prior to AC power coming back on up and I had to toggle the battery disconnect. Any ideas? I've never used a generator on this camper so maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
If you have the Progressive Industries EMS, it will shut down the AC connection from most inverter generators because they don't internally connect the neutral to the ground (This is done in a pedestal connection at the campground service entrance). That makes the EMS "think" there is an open ground, and shuts things down. The solution is to make a plug with a connection between the neutral (silver connection) and the ground pin (green, round connection.) Plug it into the other 120V connection on the generator.

As Pat mentioned, you can also use the bypass switch for the EMS, although that removes all the features except surge protection.

As to the delay, that normally happens with the Progressive industries EMS. There is an internal jumper that if set gives a 15 second delay. If left off (open) it is a 115 second delay. I suspect yours is missing the internal jumper. I don't think toggling the 12V disconnect had anything to do with the problem.
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I second Jon's approach. Use a N-G bonded Edison plug in the empty receptacle on the generator to bond neutral to ground. That way you can still use the EMS because it senses no open ground.
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If you have the Progressive Industries EMS, it will shut down the AC connection from most inverter generators because they don't internally connect the neutral to the ground (This is done in a pedestal connection at the campground service entrance). That makes the EMS "think" there is an open ground, and shuts things down. The solution is to make a plug with a connection between the neutral (silver connection) and the ground pin (green, round connection.) Plug it into the other 120V connection on the generator.

As Pat mentioned, you can also use the bypass switch for the EMS, although that removes all the features except surge protection.

As to the delay, that normally happens with the Progressive industries EMS. There is an internal jumper that if set gives a 15 second delay. If left off (open) it is a 115 second delay. I suspect yours is missing the internal jumper. I don't think toggling the 12V disconnect had anything to do with the problem.
Hi Jon , Didn't work for us . Honda Gen is not a inventor Gen. It is a 26 year old Gen . My brother made me the plug and it didn't"t work . On this Honda maybe if I attached a cable from a grounding area on Gen to trailer frame it might work . Had to bypass surge for it to work . Pat
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Just in case the plug my brother made for me , I have since purchased a progressive Plug . Don't tell my brother ! Pat
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Ok great! Thank you both for your help; I'm back in business. I bypassed the progressive system for now and everything works great. Very simple fix; but as they say "it's much easier to imitate success than invent it"...especially so with these camper systems. I'll plan on making a jumper plug too; once I read your response I remembered reading something about that on a previous post; I'll try searching it and get the specifics. For everyones info: I wasn't able to start the ac unit on high fan/ac. I first had to start the low fan only and then toggle the thermostat to cool; the unit chugged a little and fired right up and has been blowing cold air since. I'm in Luisiana now with shore power so don't need the generator just testing it out... I'm heading back to Wyoming this week and don't anticipate ever needing it there, basically bought it to put in the back of the truck for those "just in case moments". Thanks again I appreciate it!
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Perfect, I'll grab that type of plug and add it to the toolbox!
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Hi Jon , Didn't work for us . Honda Gen is not a inventor Gen. It is a 26 year old Gen.
The OP has the eu2200i though. Works perfectly with the EMS and bonded plug.
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My progressive Plug that my brother doesn't know I bought . Pat
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