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Old 11-24-2014, 07:17 PM   #31
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The exchange tanks seem to be where people get deceived if they don't read the info. My understanding is that none or almost none of the exchange companies in the states actually put 20lbs in the tanks anymore. (Blue Rhino now only puts 15Lbs in, down even more from the 17 they used to.)

They usually state it somewhere, but I doubt most people read the "fine print"
It's the same here, and I agree: there's nothing wrong with the propane tank standards, it's just that these exchange services (Blue Rhino and others) routinely sell as little as 15 pounds or 7 kilograms of propane in a 20lb/9kg capacity tank. It wouldn't be so bad if they charged less for less propane, but they are also expensive. It also means you are more likely to run out while camping.

One service here prints the 7 kg quantity very clearly on the label, but who expects to buy a less-than-full container of anything, and who wants to exchange tanks more frequently than necessary?

I particularly despise Blue Rhino because they continue to publish a fraudulent statement regarding the fill level in their website FAQ, instead of just being honest. They also have an honest statement (quoted by Eric above) of the actual quantity in the tank.
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:17 PM   #32
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I use a luggage scale to weigh my propane tanks.
I thought that was for all those fish you catch?
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:24 PM   #33
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Where I get my propane, if I fill my tank, and they put in 16.4 pounds, that is what I pay for. This is great, because if a tank is low, I can just top it off.
You're lucky - I haven't run across a station that charges for actual amount (rather than flat rate for a fill) yet, although I vaguely recall someone mentioning one in the Edmonton area. I agree the ability to top off is great - for most people, if they could depart for a camping trip with a full tank every time, they wouldn't need a second tank on the trailer.

Jim, can you share which station - or chain - this would be?

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I thought with places that just do exchange, you do get a full 20 pound tank, or at least are supposed to. Could be different across the continent though.
Even different within the same province. As long as the label says how much the consumer is getting, it can be whatever amount they want. My earlier 7 kg example was in Edmonton at a gas station; I see exchange setups all the time, but rarely look at the quantity because I am normally not interested in using them.
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:27 PM   #34
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I thought that was for all those fish you catch?
Fishermen don't need anything to weigh the fish - it just limits the creativity in their story-telling.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:15 PM   #35
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I thought that was for all those fish you catch?
He just GOES fishing.
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Jim, can you share which station - or chain - this would be?
Calgary Co-op.

I thought more places do that. I fuel up there as often as possible, as you get an instant 3¢/litre grocery coupon, plus a 6¢/litre in membership refunds at the end of the year. Plus, they have full service, which I always prefer, if available.
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Calgary Co-op.
Thanks. None here, of course, but an option when passing through Calgary.

The equivalent here would be North Central Co-op, but most of their locations don't offer propane. I'll try to remember to check out one of the ones that does.
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I thought that was for all those fish you catch?
That's why he uses it for propane!
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It's the same here, and I agree: there's nothing wrong with the propane tank standards, it's just that these exchange services (Blue Rhino and others) routinely sell as little as 15 pounds or 7 kilograms of propane in a 20lb/9kg capacity tank. It wouldn't be so bad if they charged less for less propane, but they are also expensive. It also means you are more likely to run out while camping.

One service here prints the 7 kg quantity very clearly on the label, but who expects to buy a less-than-full container of anything, and who wants to exchange tanks more frequently than necessary?

I particularly despise Blue Rhino because they continue to publish a fraudulent statement regarding the fill level in their website FAQ, instead of just being honest. They also have an honest statement (quoted by Eric above) of the actual quantity in the tank.
I agree completely. Blue Rhino is very prevalent here, and its always the most expensive propane around to boot.

I get my tanks filled at the U-Haul store, and can verify the amount they dispense as well as the weight of the tanks. Its sold by volume which makes it great when the tank is partially full - and you only pay for the amount you get. As long as the tank certification stamp is not expired and it passes their visual inspection, they will fill it.
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Same for me - U-Haul. Last time I was there was the first time anyone actually checked the tank date. I think when my tank is ready to expire, I'll do a Blue Rhino exchange just 'cause they are such a wonderful company
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I have very rarely filled up where they do not check the date first. Not sure what the penalty is, but I know there can be one if they neglect this.

Do the gas station attendants in the US have to take some approved training on handling and dispensing propane at a fuel station? They do here. I have had to go to another station before, when they did not have someone trained working at the time.
http://www.propane.ca/sites/default/...2012-04(3).pdf
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