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Old 11-24-2014, 11:24 PM   #41
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I have very rarely filled up where they do not check the date first. Not sure what the penalty is, but I know there can be one if they neglect this.

Do the gas station attendants in the US have to take some approved training on handling and dispensing propane at a fuel station? They do here. I have had to go to another station before, when they did not have someone trained working at the time.
http://www.propane.ca/sites/default/...2012-04(3).pdf
Not sure about the gas station ones here, but at U-Haul I've had to wait because the employee certified to dispense propane was busy. So yes, there apparently is a certification requirement. They are very strict about checking the tank stamp and they also record the weight before and after dispensing.
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:26 PM   #42
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That kind of good service only lends to consumer confidence. Good for the guys at U-Haul.
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:30 PM   #43
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Not sure about the gas station ones here, but at U-Haul I've had to wait because the employee certified to dispense propane was busy. So yes, there apparently is a certification requirement. They are very strict about checking the tank stamp and they also record the weight before and after dispensing.
I only fill at U-Haul unless I need a fill up on the road and they always check the date and fill by volume (gallons). They never record the weight and I don't need that. Why, when equipment is available that measures gallons or liters dispensed?
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:38 PM   #44
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Same for me - U-Haul. Last time I was there was the first time anyone actually checked the tank date. I think when my tank is ready to expire, I'll do a Blue Rhino exchange just 'cause they are such a wonderful company
Yeah, wonderful. Instead of the exchange cylinder you can get a brand new empty one at Amazon for around $32. Comes with an opd and a built in gauge. Plus, the stamp is recent so it won't expire as soon.
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I only fill at U-Haul unless I need a fill up on the road and they always check the date and fill by volume (gallons). They never record the weight and I don't need that. Why, when equipment is available that measures gallons or liters dispensed?
I don't know why they weigh it beforehand Steve. Maybe its something to do with the filling machine setup.
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Over the years I've always found the lowest price for a full 20lb tank fill at Costco.. twice in November in Calgary $12.06 flat fee for a full fill.. compared to a local filler in Golden BC $17 and a fill at a Sask CO-OP in Carlyle in Oct at $33
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I don't know why they weigh it beforehand Steve. Maybe its something to do with the filling machine setup.
A lot of places that do it by weight sit the tank on a simple balance beam scale.. with the cast weight for a 20 30 or 40#tank on the hanger.. make sure they have the slider over about 3# to allow for the filling fitting and hose assembly
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If they start with the tare weight and with the fitting and hose attached, then they should be able to just slide the weight over 20 lbs.
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I have very rarely filled up where they do not check the date first. Not sure what the penalty is, but I know there can be one if they neglect this.

Do the gas station attendants in the US have to take some approved training on handling and dispensing propane at a fuel station? They do here. I have had to go to another station before, when they did not have someone trained working at the time.
http://www.propane.ca/sites/default/...2012-04(3).pdf
Yes, training is required in Canada... at least in both Alberta and British Columbia. I have been unable to buy propane because a certified attendant was not available. Despite that...
  • the only place I've seen that has checked the date is the one Costco in Edmonton with propane,
  • one B.C. attendant didn't even check for weight or level (just let the safety backup OPD slam closed), and
  • most attendants don't check the tare at all (they just pre-set the scale to an assumed 17 pounds for the tank plus 20 pounds for the propane).
They do the course (maybe a half day?), but clearly no one is providing effective enforcement.

On my motorhome the 80% bleed valve is opened to monitor fill level. I had one guy mentoring a female employee get so distracted that the two of them walked away after the filling operation leaving the valve open and discharging propane. I closed it; there's no way I would trust the people who do these jobs to fill my tank without supervision or without checking their work.
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While it is true that many gas station attendants are young kids just looking to make money, and are not always that careful, I must have been fortunate that where I have filled, they almost exclusively have checked the date, and never have left the fill station unattended. Could be that I mostly fill ate Calgary Co-op, and their standards there are definitely well above other fuelling stations I have attended. One really can't put all the blame on the attendants, the owners need to care and enforce proper procedure too.

At Calagary Co-op a couple months ago, while fuelling my truck with diesel, a pump four islands away had a fill valve stick, and before the attendant could shut it off (really quickly too), there was a spill on the ground. They quickly shut off all the pumps, ushered patrons into the building, and would not restart any of them until the clean up was complete, which they all quickly attended to it. I just left with a less than full tank, but was glad to see they had an emergency procedure in place, and they acted upon it well.
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