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08-04-2014, 08:57 AM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Rear camera power question
Since Escape trailers don't have backup lights, anyone know how they wire 12V to a rear view camera? I figured tapping into the tail lights would be the best method to use it as a rear view camera, not just as a backup, and still have no power to it when camped so as not to drain the battery. The system I am having installed has a slip-over mirror (with video input) that covers the truck mirror completely.
ETI is closed for BC day today and the trailer is starting the 3rd week of the build - hoping to get this resolved before they open tomorrow.
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08-04-2014, 10:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Phoenix Metro Area, Arizona
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 767
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They'll do whatever you ask. Why not have them power it off the running lights - then you can have it on whenever you want?
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08-04-2014, 10:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tractors1
Since Escape trailers don't have backup lights, anyone know how they wire 12V to a rear view camera? I figured tapping into the tail lights would be the best method to use it as a rear view camera, not just as a backup, and still have no power to it when camped so as not to drain the battery. The system I am having installed has a slip-over mirror (with video input) that covers the truck mirror completely.
ETI is closed for BC day today and the trailer is starting the 3rd week of the build - hoping to get this resolved before they open tomorrow.
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I have my camera wired to the "running lights." The camera is on when I have the tow vehicle parking lights on. That way, I can turn them on when driving down the road OR backing up. When the tow vehicle is not connected, they are off. I unplug the monitor if I don't want to see the camera at all.
I had ETI leave 6 feet of ground and running light connection out the front and I did the rest.
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Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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08-04-2014, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Trailer: 2015 5.0 TA, 2014- RAM HEMI 8 spd
Posts: 447
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Any thought of going battery powered wireless?
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08-04-2014, 12:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba55
Any thought of going battery powered wireless?
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My camera is wireless between the trailer and tow. More details on our web page.
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Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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08-04-2014, 01:06 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba55
Any thought of going battery powered wireless?
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I imagine a battery powered camera would only last a few hours at best, particularly when transmitting wireless. My system communicates wirelessly to the truck.
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08-04-2014, 01:08 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Trailers I've had in the past had the running lights and tail lights on the same circuit. Are they wired different in an Escape?
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08-04-2014, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tractors1
Trailers I've had in the past had the running lights and tail lights on the same circuit. Are they wired different in an Escape?
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No, it's the same circuit in almost any car and in the common 7-pin RV-style towing connector.
The centre pin of that connector is an auxiliary, meaning that it has no standard use and can be assigned for anything you want, as long as the tug and trailer are compatible. A common use is for backup lights; in this case, it could be wired to the backup lights on the tug and a wire run in the Escape for the camera... and for backup lights too if you want. If you do this and tow another trailer, you may need a disconnect switch on this circuit in case the trailer does something different and undesirable with it.
In old Bolers, there was a wire attached to this pin (using the standard colour coding of yellow) and run to the back of the trailer near the tail lamps in case anyone wanted to use it for either backup lights or a dedicated stop (brake) lamp. Is this done in an Escape, or is there just nothing connected to that pin?
Most manufacturers use common 7-conductor cable for the connection to the tug, so even if one pin is not used for anything that wire is still there to be used.
For an earlier discussion in more depth, see Backup lights.
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08-04-2014, 08:55 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland
Trailer: 2014 19' Named Bailey
Posts: 132
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my camera was installed during build, works great! One of my favorite things so far!
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04-03-2015, 10:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bandera, Texas
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 144
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FishBioGirl, can you tell me what type/details of the camera you got? Thanks.
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04-04-2015, 06:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland
Trailer: 2014 19' Named Bailey
Posts: 132
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I got it from rear view safety, it is white so blends in nicely, really love it! On first trip we had heavy rain and wind, it was great to be able to see behind the trailer while driving. I can even see my bikes on the rack to be sure they are secure. I use flexible wire ties to secure the monitor ever the rear view mirror in my FJ it seems homely but works really well as that is where I am accustom to looking to see behind the vehicle.
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04-04-2015, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,373
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I also have a system from Rear View Safety - 2 cameras, one on the RAV4 & one on the trailer mounted above the window. They are wired cameras, powered by the wiring so they can be on all the time or switched off at the monitor & I don't need to find a power source in the trailer.
I like the system, been using it for 4 years. The only problem I have had is they use a coiled 18 wheeler 7 pin connector to go between the trailer & the tow vehicle. It is overkill weight wise, and the pins get corroded, causing streaks in the image from the camera. I keep a spray can of no-corrode and touch them up every couple of weeks...
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04-04-2015, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bandera, Texas
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 144
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Thanks to both of you for your responses. Much appreciated.
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04-04-2015, 08:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Covington, Louisiana
Trailer: Escape 21 pick up on 5/26/15.
Posts: 104
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I have a wireless system that I purchased from Tadi Bros. And had sent to ETI, but haven't seen it yet as we don't pick up till 5/26. I also got the white one.
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Steve & Julie
Covington, Louisiana
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04-20-2015, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Wenatchee, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19'
Posts: 179
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Hi Steve and Julie;
I also bought the Tadi Bros. camera for my ETI 19, but haven't installed it yet. Would be interested in exchanging thoughts and views when they're both operating.
Chuck
Wenatchee, WA
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04-20-2015, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Missoula, Montana
Trailer: Escape 19, 2018: Last Best Escape
Posts: 395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citabria90
Hi Steve and Julie;
I also bought the Tadi Bros. camera for my ETI 19, but haven't installed it yet. Would be interested in exchanging thoughts and views when they're both operating.
Chuck
Wenatchee, WA
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We bought ours from Tadi Bros. as well. We brought our 19 home on 4/5. I have the white camera hooked to our Rand McNally GPS wirelessly. You'll [You and Steve & Julie] like how it works.
Klaus
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2015 Escape 19 (previous): Escape Goats
2011 Escape 17 (previous): SittEscape
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04-21-2015, 05:55 AM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Tracy, California
Trailer: 2015 19'
Posts: 48
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How did you decide which camera and options to purchase? Did ETI provide input?
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04-21-2015, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Missoula, Montana
Trailer: Escape 19, 2018: Last Best Escape
Posts: 395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lornanaugle
How did you decide which camera and options to purchase? Did ETI provide input?
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Phil and Lorna,
After I saw your post, we had consider your question for a while. We really don't remember which thread on the Forum prompted us to look at Tadi Brothers but we're both [wife and I] sure that it was, indeed, on this Forum. And, we also wanted the camera compatible [meaning easy to install] with our Rand McNally GPS. Finally, the Tadi camera came in white!
We had it shipped directly to ETI. They wired it for us to turn on whenever the lights are on. A small icon on the GPS lets us switch to the camera view mode at any time.
Hope that helps.
Klaus
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2018 Escape 19: Last Best Escape
2015 Escape 19 (previous): Escape Goats
2011 Escape 17 (previous): SittEscape
Honda Pilot 2019
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04-21-2015, 10:12 AM
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#19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bandera, Texas
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 144
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Very helpful information, Klaus. I need to get my camera this week and ship to ETI. Can you tell me again exactly which camera you got? I looked on the Tadi Brothers web site and did not see a 'white' camera. Thanks.
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04-21-2015, 10:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Missoula, Montana
Trailer: Escape 19, 2018: Last Best Escape
Posts: 395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacMan
Very helpful information, Klaus. I need to get my camera this week and ship to ETI. Can you tell me again exactly which camera you got? I looked on the Tadi Brothers web site and did not see a 'white' camera. Thanks.
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Here's the detail from the one we have:
https://www.tadibrothers.com/Secured/Cart
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2011 Escape 17 (previous): SittEscape
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