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10-16-2018, 02:59 PM
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Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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Originally Posted by Greg A
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Did you do just where the original vinyl was with two cans or did you do a bigger area?
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10-16-2018, 03:08 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
Did you do just where the original vinyl was with two cans or did you do a bigger area?
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Just did the bottom panels where the flaps are. Twin 6v battery boxes cover whole center section. Never been susceptible to high rock hits on this trailer and tow so far.
Hard part is the lines. You can't use painters tape as it peels the PD up. I use a long plastic drywall tool to avoid over spray wiping it clean and moving it where needed.
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10-16-2018, 04:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Valley, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19 towing with a 2019 Honda Ridgeline
Posts: 62
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Thanks everyone. I have asked ETI if they'll wave the $200 change fee ... my pickup date is less than a month out. So far haven't heard back, but I won't pay the extra $200 for the unit...it's not that important to me. My latest build photos show the battery rails and propane tank in place, so I have a feeling they'll say no. I hadn't realized about the vinyl flaps, which I suppose would solve the issue of rock dings, but I really like the idea of the plastic tool dip stuff too.
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10-17-2018, 07:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
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Thanks. Tends to be many variation of white. Let us know how removal goes!
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10-17-2018, 08:52 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Valley, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19 towing with a 2019 Honda Ridgeline
Posts: 62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
No storage box, removed the vinyl flaps and spayed the panels with Plasti dip about 2 years ago. No chips, and the Plasti dip matches gel coat color.
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Greg, what made you decide to use the plasti-dip over the vinyl flaps?
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10-17-2018, 11:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the5reeds
Greg, what made you decide to use the plasti-dip over the vinyl flaps?
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Personally, I hated the Vinyl flaps on previous 17B. Took them off and never put anything in their place. I totally forgot ETI did them and forgot to tell them not to put them on the 19. One of our Scamp Owners had used the plasti dip and I really liked it. Removed the vinyl flaps, applied the dip and its been a perfect solution to date.
I’m also not a fan of the ETI storage box, eventually want a more robust black aluminum truck storage box with a bit more secure locks. However, I’d still plasti dip those lower panels whether I have a box or not just as a precaution.
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10-17-2018, 02:16 PM
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#27
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: ely, Minnesota
Trailer: escape 17b 2017
Posts: 9
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we had damage to our 17 the first trip out with it. rocks broke the entire structure away in two separate places - not just gel coat. we had no storage box nor flaps. see attached pics and click on them to see detail.
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10-17-2018, 02:40 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,636
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minnranger
we had damage to our 17 the first trip out with it. rocks broke the entire structure away in two separate places - not just gel coat. we had no storage box nor flaps. see attached pics and click on them to see detail.
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Wow! That is some damage! That is a perfect lesson that you have to drive for the conditions. If the road is gravelly such that your wheels are throwing rocks at your trailer, you should either slow down to the point where that no longer happens, or resign yourself to incurring damage on your fiberglass.
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10-17-2018, 02:52 PM
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#29
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: ely, Minnesota
Trailer: escape 17b 2017
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no, those are not the choices i would recommend. there will always be rocks stuck in tires no matter where you drive. if you drive slow enough to not throw rocks, well, good luck getting anywhere and no, do not simply accept getting damage. my original post is what i recommend - do something about it by blocking/protecting the fiberglass body in some fashion.
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10-17-2018, 04:59 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Minnranger: what the heck is your tow vehicle? and what tires on it that you can throw rocks big enough to do that damage.
This is what my 17B looks like after ten years towing down gravel roads with a RAV4. Couple chips in the gelcoat that you can't see for looking.
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10-17-2018, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Since Minnranger is duplicate posting, I'm going to copy my post over on the 4 things thread---
Either too fast or too rough or both, I have never seen damage that bad, and to a new trailer. I have seen pictures here of Escapes that went all the way to Alaska and return and not have that heavy damage. You would almost have to file an insurance claim to have it fixed.
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10-17-2018, 05:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I have seen pictures here of Escapes that went all the way to Alaska and return and not have that heavy damage.
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Yup and throw in a couple of Mex. 5 trips in Baja also. My wheel wells have a few small pock marks but that's about it.
Lucky that kind of damage is fairly easy to repair and make it look like new again.
Ron
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10-17-2018, 06:02 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
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When I added a second battery and moved them rearward, I also extended the rear bar to support a protective panel. This panel is a window cut out that I asked for when I ordered the trailer. I attached it using the upper snap holes and of course new holes in the bar. I also hung a rubber flap down from the bar.
It was cheap to do and I am sure it would have worked well. I stood back...looked at it then got two things from the house, a camera and a grinder...it looked like crap! A few minutes after the photo it was gone.
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10-17-2018, 06:48 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Trailer: 2015 21ft Escape "Spirit of the Plains", 2014 GMC Sierra with max tow package
Posts: 1,100
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The right set of flaps on the tow vehicle will go a long way in protecting the trailer. I’ve got the factory ones on the GMC and only show very minor damage on the foam insulation at the front of the trailer. Loren
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10-17-2018, 06:48 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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looks like a snow plow on the Escape......
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10-17-2018, 08:21 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,561
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minnranger
we had damage to our 17 the first trip out with it. rocks broke the entire structure away in two separate places - not just gel coat. we had no storage box nor flaps. see attached pics and click on them to see detail.
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My bet is that the glass in that area was not rolled tight into that corner leaving a void behind the gelcoat. The gelcoat alone does not have much strength due to it being relatively thin. Ron is right, this is not a very tough repair. Clean the damaged areas out real good, maybe fill with some fibre reinforced filler, then add a layer of gelcoat, sand and buff.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
When I added a second battery and moved them rearward, I also extended the rear bar to support a protective panel. This panel is a window cut out that I asked for when I ordered the trailer. I attached it using the upper snap holes and of course new holes in the bar. I also hung a rubber flap down from the bar.
It was cheap to do and I am sure it would have worked well. I stood back...looked at it then got two things from the house, a camera and a grinder...it looked like crap! A few minutes after the photo it was gone.
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I too have to admit I was not pleased with how some of my ideas have played out either. You have done lots of great mods to your trailer, but in this case it was a good decision to remove them.
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10-24-2018, 11:32 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 259
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I have a storage box in back yard.
Soon to be a planter.
Doug
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10-24-2018, 12:05 PM
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#38
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Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Gallagher lake Oliver BC., British Columbia
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 39
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Storage and protection.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by the5reeds
I am picking up my new 19 in November, and am starting to wonder if I should have ordered a cargo box just to help protect the front edge of the trailer. I wouldn't really need it for the storage per se.
So my question is is it worth the $700 for this? I am going to buy mud flaps for my 2019 Ridgeline, which I hope will minimize flying rocks. I have also read about protective film for the trailer's front surfaces. Also this product looks effective Stone Stomper Stone Guard | Stone stomper
Thoughts?
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DO get the storage box !!! It will give you awesome protection and one has never to much storage space. On our 19 it is always full. We have our 19 now for 4 years and almost no damage to the trailer front. Mud flaps help somewhat but not enough. !!
Good luck with your 19. We love it !!
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10-24-2018, 01:03 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2011 19'
Posts: 223
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This summer we made a mistake taking a road we thought was paved from Consul, Sk. to Milk River Ab. it was about 200 km of gravel. The only damage was paint chipped off the rear bumper and entrance steps (since painted over). We have the front box and you can barely see any micro damage. We have no mud flaps on the Highlander. It took a while for us to clean out dust that had seeped into the trailer though; mostly through the furnace.
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10-24-2018, 01:38 PM
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#40
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Henderson, Nevada
Trailer: 2017 19' Escape
Posts: 3
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Storage Box a must have
Quote:
Originally Posted by the5reeds
I am picking up my new 19 in November, and am starting to wonder if I should have ordered a cargo box just to help protect the front edge of the trailer. I wouldn't really need it for the storage per se.
So my question is is it worth the $700 for this? I am going to buy mud flaps for my 2019 Ridgeline, which I hope will minimize flying rocks. I have also read about protective film for the trailer's front surfaces. Also this product looks effective Stone Stomper Stone Guard | Stone stomper
Thoughts?
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I just finished a 2500 mile round trip Las Vegas to Atlanta. Storage box was main stay all things hook up, set up and take down. To your questions it stopped all kinds of road "crap" from hitting the fiberglass front of my 19. Cannot imagine what clean up or repair would have been like without it. Box is thought and coated with chip resistant coating which can be cleaned with soap water or solvent to get off the Dept of Highways mystery glue tar.
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