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Old 07-08-2016, 06:22 PM   #101
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I need to ship my BoatAnt antenna to Escape for installation on the trailer. I'm looking at two cables to choose from. Each is about $20. The first is a Wilson 20 ft RG58 Low Loss Foam. The second is a Times Microwave LMR-400. The LMR-400 is 7 ft and about twice the diameter of the RG58. Length isn't important. Seven ft would be plenty. I know little about the differences in cables and hope one of the wise souls on the board can guide me in my choice.
LMR-400 cable has less than half the loss of RG58 cable (4.1 dB per 100 feet of cable at 1000MHz vs. 10.5 dB), so I would go with the LMR-400. Radio hams use the less lossy cable whenever they can afford it. For this short run, it probably won't make a lot of difference, but it can't hurt and it might help you get a better signal when you really need it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:25 PM   #102
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LMR-400 cable has less than half the loss of RG58 cable (4.1 dB per 100 feet of cable at 1000MHz vs. 10.5 dB), so I would go with the LMR-400. Radio hams use the less lossy cable whenever they can afford it. For this short run, it probably won't make a lot of difference, but it can't hurt and it might help you get a better signal when you really need it.
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I need to ship my BoatAnt antenna to Escape for installation on the trailer. I'm looking at two cables to choose from. Each is about $20. The first is a Wilson 20 ft RG58 Low Loss Foam. The second is a Times Microwave LMR-400. The LMR-400 is 7 ft and about twice the diameter of the RG58. Length isn't important. Seven ft would be plenty. I know little about the differences in cables and hope one of the wise souls on the board can guide me in my choice.
As a general rule the lower loss cables like LMR-400 can be much stiffer and harder to bend around sharp corners. Something to consider when planning the installation. Also, the loss is directly proportional to the total length. For example, going from a 20' to a 10' cable will cut the loss in half, so a 7' section of RG58 might be low enough that you can easily live with it, and switching to LMR-400 might be a trivial improvment.

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Old 08-13-2016, 11:14 AM   #104
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I appreciate this discussion very much. I know much of it goes over my head, but perhaps I could get some advice.

I have a 2017 21' on order and want to have the best possible phone and data service at campsites, and would also like to receive any available wifi signals as best as possible, so I am considering having ETI install a cell/wifi signal booster and antenna. At present I am considering the Wilson 4G-X and the BoatAnt antenna. I am confused about whether it is best to permanently mount the antenna, and if so, where would be the best location to have ETI mount it to be protected from tree limbs and to function well considering interference issues with solar controllers, the inside antenna, etc. I am thinking I would use my cell phone with Sprint unlimited data plan as a hotspot and use a laptop generally when seated in the rear of the trailer at the dinette. So where would be best to have the inside antenna and the outside BoatAnt, and how best to have it all put together considering cables, etc? Or perhaps a different antenna, or not permanently mounted? I have not ordered anything yet.
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2 different things as far as I know, cell/wifi. The Wilson is a cell booster. You'd a wifi (campground provided signal) booster too.
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Old 08-13-2016, 01:32 PM   #106
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Thanks. My primary interest is in boosting the cell signal, so yes the Wilson Drive 4G-X will do that. I know there will be different opinions, but my real question is along the lines of "in this circumstance, what would you do if you were me?"
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Thanks. My primary interest is in boosting the cell signal, so yes the Wilson Drive 4G-X will do that. I know there will be different opinions, but my real question is along the lines of "in this circumstance, what would you do if you were me?"
I will be doing the BoatAnt antenna permanently mounted high up on the side of the trailer downstream of the refrigerator vent with the cable ending up in the overhead storage above the dinette. Booster is SolidRF. I will then use a Verizon Jetpack to complete the system.

For Wifi I will be using a portable Ubiquiti NanoStation locoM2 and airGateway. The M2 can be mounted to a window via suction cup device. Being portable I can move it from tow vehicle to trailer depending on circumstance.

For TV I will be mounting a stainless fishing pole holder to the back bumper of the trailer and using a 3 section fiberglass pole inserted into the pole holder with an antenna on top of the pole and run a coax to the TV/Cable ready port on the side of the trailer. We are not big TV watchers and didn't want a permanently mounted antenna on top of the trailer.
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I have the Boat Ant and the Wilson Weboost Cradle. Works pretty well, adds about 2 bars as long as there is some signal available.

I mounted mine right in front of and to the side of the air conditioner, which in reality is not ideal. I talked to the tech at Wilson, he said to mount it where the signal is not blocked, as high as you can get it. They are pretty squat antennas, you might put it away from the AC and the fan. I think ETI normally puts them just to the front of the doorway on the door side.

I probably should have mounted it to the top of the air conditioner housing.
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I have the Boat Ant and the Wilson Weboost Cradle. Works pretty well, adds about 2 bars as long as there is some signal available.

I mounted mine right in front of and to the side of the air conditioner, which in reality is not ideal. I talked to the tech at Wilson, he said to mount it where the signal is not blocked, as high as you can get it. They are pretty squat antennas, you might put it away from the AC and the fan. I think ETI normally puts them just to the front of the doorway on the door side.

I probably should have mounted it to the top of the air conditioner housing.
One thing that I rarely see in these discussions is placement of antennas as regards to shading of roof top mounted solar panels. Even a pencil thin shadow across a solar panel can significantly reduce the panels output. Life is so full of trade offs!

I'm as bad as a teenager in my passion for my data gathering devices but am also discovering on my third "maiden voyage" how good it feels to turn my devices off and leave them off. Its like driving out of a city's smog and discovering fresh air ... again.

To each his own of course, but for me out camping, I seek areas where the silence is deafening.

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Where will you place the SolidRF unit, and where will you place the inside antenna? Will they both be in the upper cabinet over the dinette?
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