Ford F-150 2.7 or 3.5 EB best for towing a 5.0TA??

[rbryan4]

One need not necessarily own an F150 to know it's the best 1/2 ton truck on the road. I knew that before I bought mine. [emoji23]

[PGDriver]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

One need not necessarily own an F150 to know it's the best 1/2 ton truck on the road. I knew that before I bought mine. [emoji23]

Robert you should have driven a 6.2 Sierra [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6][emoji41]


Cheers
Doug

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by PGDriver

Robert you should have driven a 6.2 Sierra [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6][emoji41]


Cheers
Doug

Resist the dark side Doug. Come back to the light. [emoji23]

Seriously though, GM does make a fine truck. The old GM/Ford debate isn't that important.

[padlin]

If they'd build a Sierra with a 3.5 EB and have a heavy payload option I'd trade in my F150. Had the Sierra before the F150.

[PGDriver]

Originally Posted by padlin

If they'd build a Sierra with a 3.5 EB and have a heavy payload option I'd trade in my F150. Had the Sierra before the F150.

Hi Bob actually I believe the Sierra has the one of the largest heavy payload options of the half tons its their NHT option (1970LBS).
With the 6.2 pulling the 5.0TA I get over 15 mpg and over 22 empty.


Cheers
Doug

[Oldtimer]

Ok your thoughts on Chevy Z71 .......for the Ford seats were not comfortable to my back so Chevy its is lol

[PGDriver]

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

Ok your thoughts on Chevy Z71 .......for the Ford seats were not comfortable to my back so Chevy its is lol

When I bought the truck, now 2 years ago I believe the NHT package (3.42 gears, larger diff package and better suspension) was only available with the SLT package.
I also love the heated cooled seats in my Sierra.


Cheers
Doug

[War Eagle]

Originally Posted by MyronL

... How about this for an extra killer: Tom showed me the dealer invoice for two brand new rims he'll be getting next Tuesday, $1600.00 each!

Makes a set of locking lug nuts sound like cheap insurance. Not infallible, but better than nothing, simply as a visual deterrent.

[padlin]

Originally Posted by Oldtimer

Ok your thoughts on Chevy Z71 .......for the Ford seats were not comfortable to my back so Chevy its is lol

A more comfortable seat is what I liked on the GMC over the Ford.

[Oldtimer]

Yes more comfortable love the heated seats n the ride is better even when towing to me and less road noise going down the highway

[rbryan4]

I guess comfort is subjective. Love the power seats in my Lariat. Heated and cooled as well.

[titanizer]

Ditto that-rbryan! Go Titans

[PGDriver]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

I guess comfort is subjective. Love the power seats in my Lariat. Heated and cooled as well.

Not knocking Ford at all, everyone has different expectations/taste in vehicles. What one finds comfortable to their body type might not be as comfortable to the next.
I test drove all the brands, eliminated some and Eileen even crossed one off the list [emoji15].
Then researched the remaining and bought our Sierra, although Eileen hates the towing mirrors as she has trouble seeing around them (I love them).
I’m sure glad everyone doesn’t like the same brand of trucks, I think it’s the compilation that keeps the prices somewhat reasonable.

4 trucks back I owned this beauty a 95, last year of the larger valves in the 460.
Good thing gas was cheap back in those days [emoji57].



Cheers
Doug

[Patandlinda]

Must say loving my Fords , once test drove a Sierra pickup and found the truck to be very comfortable and quiet. I remember saying I could love this truck too ! Pat

[Patandlinda]

Originally Posted by PGDriver

Not knocking Ford at all, everyone has different expectations/taste in vehicles. What one finds comfortable to their body type might not be as comfortable to the next.
I test drove all the brands, eliminated some and Eileen even crossed one off the list [emoji15].
Then researched the remaining and bought our Sierra, although Eileen hates the towing mirrors as she has trouble seeing around them (I love them).
I’m sure glad everyone doesn’t like the same brand of trucks, I think it’s the compilation that keeps the prices somewhat reasonable.

4 trucks back I owned this beauty a 95, last year of the larger valves in the 460.
Good thing gas was cheap back in those days [emoji57].



Cheers
Doug

Nice ! Pat

[War Eagle]

Funny! It was the comfort, to both of us, of the F-150 XLT's 40-20-40 console design with dual 10-way power bucket seats, and yes, heated, that drew us to our 2016 Ford. That, and the huge open, flat floor space in the rear of our SuperCrew cab. As Margaret Mead said, "Always remember that you are absolutely unique. Just like everyone else."

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by War Eagle

Funny! It was the comfort, to both of us, of the F-150 XLT's 40-20-40 console design with dual 10-way power bucket seats, and yes, heated, that drew us to our 2016 Ford. That, and the huge open, flat floor space in the rear of our SuperCrew cab. As Margaret Mead said, "Always remember that you are absolutely unique. Just like everyone else."

Yep. As I said, subjective. I've never owned a vehicle as comfortable as my F150. And love the buckets and the flow through center console as well.

[Oldtimer]

They are both excellent tow vehicles which ever one choose they can’t go wrong

[CharlesPou]

Originally Posted by barry

After filling up with gas I went to a weigh station about 5 miles away and weighed the tuck and trailer with both my wife and me in it. The truck came in at 6450lbs and the GVW for this truck is 6500lbs, the trailer unhitched from the truck was 3800lbs.Barry

Hello Barry, I not trying to be smart, just trying to understand the above. I think you have 2017 F150 SuperCab, 2.7EB, RWD, 3.73 axle, without optional 2.7EB payload package. I just looked at the 2017 F150 Brochure, and think your GVWR is 6250. Best I can tell, from the brochure for your truck GCVR 13,100, max trailer weight 8,200, max payload 1,710, and GVWR 6,250.

I don't fully understand the specs, but if GCVR 13,100 less max trailer weight 8,200 equals 4,900, that appears to mean if your pulling 8,200 trailer, the truck GVW should not be over 4,900? So, appears a heavy trailer can really cut into your payload rating. Also, if GVWR 6,250 less max payload 1,710 equals 4,540, appears if you are carrying the max payload you can only carry an additional 360 in the truck? Is this the way it works, just trying to understand.

I've never been to truck scales to weigh anything, so don't know how it works. Does the 6450lbs your TV weigh include the trailer attached to your TV?, or just your truck? I'm getting new 21', so tongue weight will be a little less than your 5.0, but similar. I normally carry a bunch of stuff in the back of the TV, so just trying to understand the trade offs between the different towing specs, so I'm not over loaded. Thanks

[barry]

Originally Posted by CharlesPou

Hello Barry, I not trying to be smart, just trying to understand the above. I think you have 2017 F150 SuperCab, 2.7EB, RWD, 3.73 axle, without optional 2.7EB payload package. I just looked at the 2017 F150 Brochure, and think your GVWR is 6250. Best I can tell, from the brochure for your truck GCVR 13,100, max trailer weight 8,200, max payload 1,710, and GVWR 6,250.

I don't fully understand the specs, but if GCVR 13,100 less max trailer weight 8,200 equals 4,900, that appears to mean if your pulling 8,200 trailer, the truck GVW should not be over 4,900? So, appears a heavy trailer can really cut into your payload rating. Also, if GVWR 6,250 less max payload 1,710 equals 4,540, appears if you are carrying the max payload you can only carry an additional 360 in the truck? Is this the way it works, just trying to understand.

I've never been to truck scales to weigh anything, so don't know how it works. Does the 6450lbs your TV weigh include the trailer attached to your TV?, or just your truck? I'm getting new 21', so tongue weight will be a little less than your 5.0, but similar. I normally carry a bunch of stuff in the back of the TV, so just trying to understand the trade offs between the different towing specs, so I'm not over loaded. Thanks

Hi Charles
I wouldn't go by the info in brochures to calculate anything regarding payload and such as the manufactures always use the best case scenario to gloat about how great there particular vehicle is and this may not apply to your truck.

The info I got on my truck is from the door sticker. On the F150 there is a yellow door sticker that states the payload and recommended tire pressures and a blue sticker that states the axle ratings and GVW for that particular truck. My truck is a 4x4 without the payload package and the sticker states the GVW for my truck to be 6500lbs. The yellow sticker states the payload (what I can add in cargo and passengers to the truck with a full tank of gas) to be 1543lbs.

The 6450lbs that I stated in my post is the truck fully loaded with passengers, cargo, a full tank of gas and hitched to the trailer, so fully loaded ready to roll I'm 50lbs under my maximum truck payload. The GCWR would be the trailer axle (3100lbs in my case) plus the fully loaded hitched truck (6450lbs in my case), so my GCWR would be 3100lbs+6450lbs or 9550lbs which is way under the GCWR for my truck. To get the GCWR you only use the trailer axle weight because the hitch weight is included in the truck payload weight. The hitch weight would be the trailer weighed on its own (3800lbs in my case) minus the axle weight while hitched to the truck (3100lbs in my case) and that ends up being 700lbs for me.

I only highlighted everything that I carry in the truck in my post because I had read a number of posts that were questioning whether or not the payload package was needed in the F150 in order to tow a 5.0. In my case it ends up being tight but I do carry a lot of stuff in the truck cab and also in boxes in the bed. A payload package gives one, on the F150, another 500lbs of payload. I didn't want to go that route because I had been told that it makes the truck bed 1" higher and as it was I was having to get my trailer raised 2 5/8" in order to use the F150 to pull my single axle 5.0 as it was.

Barry