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09-21-2015, 10:00 AM
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New tires
Had a puncture flat this weekend and took BlackJack in for 2 new tires and ended with 4 new ones as a "safety measure". Although one one flat, it is always recommended to replace both tires on the same axle, this I knew 2 new ones were in store. But the originals were approaching 3 years on age which is 50% so I opted for 4 new ones which hopefully be good for another 5 years.
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09-21-2015, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Although one one flat, it is always recommended to replace both tires on the same axle.
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Why would this be, on an axle where the wheels turn independently? I could see on a drive axle, where a difference in diameter might affect the drive train a bit.
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09-21-2015, 11:15 AM
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Since one tire would be new and the other used, different treads, different circumferences, all could lead to change in stability.
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09-21-2015, 01:31 PM
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I guess you should never rotate your tires then, as one will always have less wear than the others?
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09-21-2015, 01:39 PM
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I am thinking you might have had a salesman who hadn't made his quota yet, Jim.
I find it real hard to believe that stability of the trailer would be affected. Am I missing something?
You could have rotated the spare on, and used the new one as the spare.
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09-21-2015, 01:46 PM
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Or deflate the new tire to match the old.
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09-21-2015, 02:39 PM
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My tires were made in early 2013, so in 6 months they would have been 3 years, for $200 more I'll have all new and good for another 5 years versus having to replace 2 tires in 2 years, plus it is a selling plus if I do decide to get that 5.0, new tires and bearings repacked, just like new.......
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09-21-2015, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
... plus it is a selling plus WHEN I do decide to get that 5.0.
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Edited for accuracy.
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09-21-2015, 02:44 PM
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Ha, Ha, from the quiet one.....
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09-21-2015, 02:53 PM
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Guilty, as charged.
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09-21-2015, 03:06 PM
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I was told the same thing as Jim in that you should change both tires on a tandem axle trailer. Both tires need to be identical IE Same Mfg -same size -same tread depth -same inflation pressure. Jim's concern with safety over cost is laudable in my book
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09-21-2015, 03:18 PM
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Thanks Steve,
This was my first flat in over 40 years and I do not want to repeat it, if possible. One thing to happen in your home town, but on the road with 2 dogs, not a pleasant scene.
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09-21-2015, 05:03 PM
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I believe the saying goes replace both tires on the same side, not the same axle.
This is from Discount tires website.
If a tire fails on a tandem axle trailer, you should replace both tires on that side. The remaining tire is likely to have been subjected to excessive loading.
Trailer Tire Facts & Information | Trailer Tire Applications | Discount Tire
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09-21-2015, 05:06 PM
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another reason to replace all 4......to prevent you from going in circles with 2 new and 2 old tires on opposite sides of the trailer.......
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09-21-2015, 05:09 PM
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Good article, it also states 3-5 years and 5-10,000 miles replacement time/mileage, both of which I will have exceeded real soon.
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09-21-2015, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kountrykamper
I believe the saying goes replace both tires on the same side, not the same axle.
This is from Discount tires website.
If a tire fails on a tandem axle trailer, you should replace both tires on that side. The remaining tire is likely to have been subjected to excessive loading.
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Now that does make some sense to me, especially if you towed a long ways on just one tire.
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09-21-2015, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
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I am glad you confirmed that because I was beginning to wonder what I had seen.
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09-22-2015, 12:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kountrykamper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Good article, it also states 3-5 years and 5-10,000 miles replacement time/mileage...
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If anyone wonders why some of us think that either "Special Trailer" tires are the worst pieces of round rubber crap ever sold for use on the road , or trailer tires sellers are the greediest businesses around, read this from that article (the source of Jim's comment, above):
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The mileage expectation of a trailer tire is 5,000 to 12,000 miles.
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If the tires on a motor vehicle - any motor vehicle with four or more wheels - ate low-performance tires that fast, buyers would probably storm back into the tire store and demand their money back. Ultra-sticky barely street legal racing tires last that long... and trailer tires have the performance of a 1970's economy sedan tire.
Maybe it's just alarmist sales promotion at Discount Tire.
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09-22-2015, 07:08 AM
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I guess you do get what you pay for, the 4 new tires will cost around $300, about what one new tire will be on the Ram with 20" wheels/tires.....
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09-22-2015, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I guess you do get what you pay for, the 4 new tires will cost around $300, about what one new tire will be on the Ram with 20" wheels/tires.....
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Hi: cpaharley2008... What brand did you buy and did you save the hex head bolt that you picked out of the tire? Alf
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