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05-08-2016, 04:21 PM
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klem
Our trailer is under a carport so the first thing people see is the hitch so I was thinking the Proven looks tough.
I learned the 'appearance' of protection can be enough for the 'average' thief and they will move on to an easier target.
So IF they don't see the boot I wonder what could be put on the hitch that was less expensive but would be discouraging too? Or an >> >> arrow "Boot back there"
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To just discourage sometime driving by, the appearance of that big coupler lock could be closely emulated with some plastic drain/waste/vent piping... leaving the wheel clamp to slow down anyone who decides to try anyway.
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Originally Posted by jerryandmaria
I'm not worried about the theft at home, but at a campground.
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Just based on a few stories, I think the big risk is in storage where no one is watching, not in a busy campground.
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Originally Posted by yardsale
Be aware that we had to have this product modified to position the steel plate properly so one or two lug nuts could not be removed, otherwise a thief just takes the tire and the boot off, replaces the tire with his own, and drives off.
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His own... or your spare off the back of the trailer!
This is one reason that some other clamp-style locks have a dome the size of the entire wheel... which may mean that they need to be sized specifically for the wheel, and likely means that they are heavy.
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05-08-2016, 04:22 PM
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#22
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Member
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Location: Alberta, Alberta
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Here is a photo of the wheel lock that I also own. I have been leaving the wheel lock at home when I am out camping. I wanted something easier to bring to the campground. The Proven Industries lock is more than I wanted to spend but its one of the only hitch locks that doesn't look like complete junk.
Brahma Wheel lock photo
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05-08-2016, 04:29 PM
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#23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chemando
Here is a photo of the wheel lock that I also own. I have been leaving the wheel lock at home when I am out camping. I wanted something easier to bring to the campground. The Proven Industries lock is more than I wanted to spend but its one of the only hitch locks that doesn't look like complete junk.
Brahma Wheel lock photo
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That looks robust. As I think about it, you probably only need to protect one of the lug nuts to thwart a thief.
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05-08-2016, 05:19 PM
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#24
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Location: Port Angeles, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
To just discourage sometime driving by, the appearance of that big coupler lock could be closely emulated with some plastic drain/waste/vent piping... leaving the wheel clamp to slow down anyone who decides to try anyway.
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How about slipping the 90 end I keep with the drain hose
That would be confusing enough for the 'average' thief and smell bad on a hot day. No extra weight either.
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05-08-2016, 05:24 PM
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#25
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Location: Ventura County, California
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What about Fred Burger Trailers , Steal Shield enclosed couple lock .fred@fredstrailers.com
888 458 3390 or 845 3393390 . Had this saved . Pat
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05-30-2016, 11:56 PM
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
What about Fred Burger Trailers , Steal Shield enclosed couple lock .fred@fredstrailers.com
888 458 3390 or 845 3393390 . Had this saved . Pat
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The Steal Shield (about $75 - I'm not sure what model might fit on an Escape 21')
http://www.cyclematetrailers.com/stealshield.html
.... sure is cheaper than the Proven Industries 2516-A ($225)
Any chance does any Escape owner own a Steal Shield? If yes - what model is it?
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05-31-2016, 12:15 AM
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
The Steal Shield (about $75 - I'm not sure what model might fit on an Escape 21')
Steal Shield Locks
.... sure is cheaper than the Proven Industries 2516-A ($225)
Any chance does any Escape owner own a Steal Shield? If yes - what model is it?
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I forgot I need to call and get some more information .Pat
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05-31-2016, 12:22 AM
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
I forgot I need to call and get some more information .Pat
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here is a video review of the Steal Shield
Steal Shield Locks SS65847 Review Video | etrailer.com
and.... is the Proven Industries 2516-A maybe slightly more secure, as it has a steel 2-D "ball" cutout that goes into the coupler?
(rather than just relying on the latch to hold the Steal Shield on...?)
Having said that..... I know that a determined thief could just use chains to lift the tongue, and tow away...... so I'll also use a sturdy wheel clamp.
:-)
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05-31-2016, 12:39 AM
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
here is a video review of the Steal Shield
Steal Shield Locks SS65847 Review Video | etrailer.com
and.... is the Proven Industries 2516-A maybe slightly more secure, as it has a steel 2-D "ball" cutout that goes into the coupler?
(rather than just relying on the latch to hold the Steal Shield on...?)
Having said that..... I know that a determined thief could just use chains to lift the tongue, and tow away...... so I'll also use a sturdy wheel clamp.
:-)
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Thankyou just watched . Now I just need clarification if it fits our coupler . Hope to call tomorrow and talk to someone . Does e- trailer sell this lock do you know ? Pat
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05-31-2016, 12:48 AM
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Thankyou just watched . Now I just need clarification if it fits our coupler . Hope to call tomorrow and talk to someone . Does e- trailer sell this lock do you know ? Pat
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I think they used to, but i searched for it on their site, and could not find it.
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thanks for calling the manufacturer tomorrow... i look forward to reading what you find out.
They make a few different models..... they stock only one model..... will be fun to find out what model they make that fits (if any)
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05-31-2016, 12:49 AM
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
I think they used to, but i searched for it on their site, and could not find it.
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thanks for calling the manufacturer tomorrow... i look forward to reading what you find out.
They make a few different models..... they stock only one model..... will be fun to find out what model they make that fits (if any)
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Will do . Pat
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05-31-2016, 01:24 AM
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#32
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The online information for the Steal Shield is not reassuring - I can't find a working website for the manufacturer
- information from retailers varies from sketchy to semi-literate
- one retailer that I know lists it, but no longer sells it (Princess Auto)
More that one site does contain a statement like this:
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THE STEAL SHIELD IS DESIGNED FOR STRAIGHT TONGUE COUPLERS ONLY (THIS MODEL WILL NOT WORK ON "A" FRAME DESIGNS). THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST 10" OF STRIGHT COUPLER SIMILAR TO THE PICTURE...
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Both this statement and looking at the device suggest that it will not fit the A-frame coupler on an Escape.
I agree that the way this one attaches to the coupler appears marginal compared to the Proven Industries design.
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05-31-2016, 01:27 AM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The online information for the Steal Shield is not reassuring[LIST][*]I can't find a working website for the manufacturer
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Steal Shield Locks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I agree that the way this one attaches to the coupler appears marginal compared to the Proven Industries design.
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yeah.... it sort of worries me a bit.... but maybe it works well?
hard to say.
As they say in hang gliding....
"Looks great .... YOU go first."
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05-31-2016, 02:05 AM
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
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I assumed that this stream of barely coherent babble was from a retailer. Nothing else they offer is their own product. The stream of text contains this:
Quote:
The above two cases is why I searched and searched for what I feel is the best lock available today by Steal Shield...
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"Searched for", not "designed" or "built".
The About Us page doesn't mention any manufacturing at all.
On the other hand, it also contains an appeal for dealers, so who knows. If this is the manufacturer, it doesn't look like someone I would deal with.
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05-31-2016, 08:22 PM
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#35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
Steal Shield Locks
yeah.... it sort of worries me a bit.... but maybe it works well?
hard to say.
As they say in hang gliding....
"Looks great .... YOU go first."
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Pat called this morning as promised . No answer , left my name and number . If a business can't answer I would be afraid to do business with them . When I first found this lock it was made in Canada . There was other dealers also at the time . I think he bought out what they have , hence one size . I checked my hitch and don't think it would fit anyway . Looks like we have to go with more expensive locks . Sorry . I tried . Pat
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06-08-2016, 09:31 PM
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#36
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Well I never did get an email reply about a Steal Shield.
I guess they don't want to sell them.
Bummer.
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07-24-2016, 10:57 PM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chemando
Below are links to a few photos of the lock. Shipping was quick but at a cost of about $53 USD. There was also a slightly cheaper UPS option at $35 USD but I was worried about larger brokerage fees. As it turns out even with USPS I got hit with $24 in taxes and customs fees.
Some of the Proven Industries locks are also supposed to be able to fit the safety chains but there wasn't enough room in the 2516-A version.
I have not had a chance to use the lock much so maybe after a couple camping trips I will post any more comments if I have them.
The lock fits well and seems very secure. It seems like its the most secure hitch lock on the market but at a really high cost. By the time you add up the cost of the lock, shipping, conversion to CAD and the customs fees its a lot of money for a lock.
Photo 1
Photo 2
Photo 3
Photo 4
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So have you had enough time with the the Proven hitch lock to have an opinion of how good it is?
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07-25-2016, 08:35 AM
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#38
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Member
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Location: Alberta, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles
So have you had enough time with the the Proven hitch lock to have an opinion of how good it is?
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Its well made and easy to use. I just think the price is higher than it should be. But there aren't a lot of options for higher quality locks.
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07-25-2016, 09:06 AM
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chemando
Its well made and easy to use. I just think the price is higher than it should be. But there aren't a lot of options for higher quality locks.
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I agree - hardly any other options for well made similar locks.
And I agree - it is darned expensive.
Do the chains fit into it, as they should, as per the design?
And
What kind of key is on the puck lock? (Round or flat) and I assume it is a fairly typical puck lock? (Not super high security)
Thanks.
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07-25-2016, 03:13 PM
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#40
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I would think that even if you secure the chains, a would be thief could easily supply their own and haul it away at least to a location where power tools could be used to defeat the hitch lock. I still favor one of the wheel lock devices which also secure a nut preventing removal of the tire. Now you have to load the TT onto a flatbead to steal.
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