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Old 03-27-2016, 11:13 AM   #11
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Thanks everyone. I will do more research into this since I see this is not very straightforward! I do LOVE my Taco and *hope* the 5.0 TA will work out!
Here's a link to an online calculator that might be of help:

RV Tow Check | Towing Capacity Calculator
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Old 03-27-2016, 06:13 PM   #12
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I was very concerned about the same thing when I was researching for commercial hitch connections for my Scamp 2016 19' gooseneck. They didn't/don't exist. My TV is a 2015 GMC Canyon XLT short bed. With 305 hp, 6 speed XMission, 1650 payload and 7000# tow I decided to quit worrying and let the pros take care of it. The Scamp gooseneck uses an 2" ball mounted to bed platform that they installed in the plant when I picked it up last month. Towing was a dream. We had a Casita 17" before and towed with a Hyundai Santa Fe GLS. That also was effortless. The long and short of it is that these light FG trailers simply don't need all the stuff that a 5 ton Montana 5th wheel needs. Don't worry about the TA, it'll follow like a puppy behind your Tahoma. Can't wait to order mine.
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Old 03-27-2016, 06:54 PM   #13
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I have never understood why we have these threads or why vehicle manufacturers waste their time and energy to have their engineers calculate limits for the vehicles they manufacture . I have never seen one of these threads where someone will not give confirmation to the notion that you can tow anything with everything.. Thank God their are hungry lawyers.!!
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:25 PM   #14
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I have a 6' bed Tacoma that I tow my 5.0 Escape with. No problem with power. Like a previous reply said, you need to be sure you have the room to place the hitch far enough from the cab to ensure the trailer does not hit it on tight turns. I had my hitch put on at trademasters, right next door to ETI in CHilliwack. They had a sliding hitch available that might be just the ticket, I would just call them directly. THey did a great job and were very reasonable, as was ETI. Best of luck
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:25 PM   #15
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I used to pull my Escape 19 with a Tacoma Double Cab TRD which was ok but I think the 5.0TA will kill it especially going up hills. Cheers
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:59 PM   #16
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I was very concerned about the same thing when I was researching for commercial hitch connections for my Scamp 2016 19' gooseneck. They didn't/don't exist. My TV is a 2015 GMC Canyon XLT short bed. With 305 hp, 6 speed XMission, 1650 payload and 7000# tow I decided to quit worrying and let the pros take care of it. The Scamp gooseneck uses an 2" ball mounted to bed platform that they installed in the plant when I picked it up last month. Towing was a dream. We had a Casita 17" before and towed with a Hyundai Santa Fe GLS. That also was effortless. The long and short of it is that these light FG trailers simply don't need all the stuff that a 5 ton Montana 5th wheel needs. Don't worry about the TA, it'll follow like a puppy behind your Tahoma. Can't wait to order mine.


Hi Bob. Can you elaborate on your experience towing the Scamp fifth wheel with your Canyon? I have the 2015 Colorado CC with short box, same frame and guts as your truck. I would like to be able to tow an Escape 5.0 but have concluded that the bed was too short and the payload marginal. I see that you are in Austin. Perhaps I can take a look at your setup sometime?
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:09 PM   #17
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I have a 6' bed Tacoma that I tow my 5.0 Escape with. No problem with power. Like a previous reply said, you need to be sure you have the room to place the hitch far enough from the cab to ensure the trailer does not hit it on tight turns. I had my hitch put on at trademasters, right next door to ETI in CHilliwack. They had a sliding hitch available that might be just the ticket, I would just call them directly. THey did a great job and were very reasonable, as was ETI. Best of luck

Is yours a single or double axle?
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:38 PM   #18
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April 2016 issue of Trailer Life. Review of a 2016 Tacoma pulling an Oliver Legacy ll. A much heavier FG trailer than an Escape. 5700 lbs as tested, I think Gross trailer weight is 7000lbs. It seems like it should handle a 5.0ta. On the other hand-- I had a 2014 Tacoma with tow package, but when I ran the numbers for a 21, I was to close to maximum pay load for my liking(within 50lbs) so I traded up to a 16 Tundra with 4.6 engine. I did not think I needed the 5.7 for a 21. Should handle it fine, bigger truck, bigger engine, more torque. Time will tell.
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Is yours a single or double axle?
Mine is a single axle 5.0, with V6 and a 6 speed manual trans. I had absolutely no power problems on the hills/mountain passes. Did some pretty steep climbs last summer into and over the Big Horns in Wyoming and Beartooths of Montana
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I have never understood why we have these threads or why vehicle manufacturers waste their time and energy to have their engineers calculate limits for the vehicles they manufacture . I have never seen one of these threads where someone will not give confirmation to the notion that you can tow anything with everything.
This thread may be the exception, as no one has made any such suggestion so far.

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I was very concerned about the same thing when I was researching for commercial hitch connections for my Scamp 2016 19' gooseneck. They didn't/don't exist. My TV is a 2015 GMC Canyon XLT short bed.
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The Scamp gooseneck uses an 2" ball mounted to bed platform that they installed in the plant when I picked it up last month.
I assume that this is Scamp's current rail-mounted ball mount, which they call a "fifth wheel hitch", not the old thing that was screwed to the truck box. This is the frame (legs and crossmember) of a fifth-wheel hitch (I think it's a Reese), carrying a ball instead of a fifth-wheel head, and mounted to the truck by "industry standard" rails, which in turn mount to the frame with brackets under the box floor.

As far as mounting to the truck is concerned, this is just like any fifth-wheel, so the Scamp 19' experience is relevant to an Escape (although a Scamp 19' is the size and weight of an Escape 5.0, not the wider and heavier 5.0TA). As far as the ball connection is concerned, this is functionally the same as using the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection system, although Scamp uses a 2" diameter ball instead of the 2-5/16" used by Andersen and far more common in this sort of connection.

I suppose an Escape 5.0/5.0TA owner could use this (or their own home-brew equivalent), with Andersen's coupler (or equivalent). Scamp owners don't need the coupler - the Scamp 19' comes with a 2" coupler, not a fifth-wheel pin.

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Mine is a single axle 5.0...
Eddie, you might want to fix the trailer description in your profile from "1986 escaper" to whatever year of "Escape 5.0".
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