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Old 03-09-2016, 01:44 AM   #1
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Anderson Ultimate Changes

Ran into this on another forum, from Anderson's facebook page.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:58 AM   #2
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I'm sold....let's see if they also add the locking capability.
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Old 03-09-2016, 02:49 PM   #3
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Ran into this on another forum, from Anderson's facebook page.
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I continue to be astounded by the stupidity of companies that publish information as a series of random blog entries in a social media forum in which most potential buyers don't even have an active account, yet don't bother dropping it into their real corporate web site. I'm not likely to search through - let alone "follow" - random chatter about the Super Bowl to find technical information about a hitch.

As of today, Andersen's Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection web page still shows the original design - both the frame and the coupler opening.
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I was on the fence but I think I'll bite on the Andersen.
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Food for thought. I have pulled 5th and goosenecks, for a travel trailer I prefer the smoother coupling and pulling of the 5th wheel 'classic'. On the farm the gooseneck was preferred, quick and simple.
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Get a B&W 5th+Companion and you can haul either.

A goose has a lower pivot point, so that means less motion
transmitted to the trailer as the truck articulates. Nice, but
no free lunch. The motion is less, but the force is more.
Basic geometry is the law.

Goose trailers have to be stronger because they reach further
to the pivot point. In most states goose mounts are not
considered "secured", and thus must be run with safety chains.
5th wheel trailers do not require safety chains.

There are more types of suspension couplers for 5th wheels.
Yes, there are airbag goose hitches, but not as wide a variety
as on the 5th side.

It is hard to imagine a better setup than the B&W + Companion
+ 5th Airborne. You have 4-axis pivot, plus airspring and shock.
All of it is quick detach.
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Old 03-10-2016, 04:28 AM   #6
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Having had a Scamp 19 which uses a coupler and ball setup (which I hated), and knowing how precise coupler to ball alignment must be to hook up versus the true 5th wheel hitch, in addition to the need for safety chains, I personally don't get the rampant fascination with the Ultimate Hitch. I see parallels with the almost universal belief that every Escape trailer must have Umbra hooks installed or it is not complete. I find the conventional 5th wheel hitch far easier to align and to hook up, and unless Anderson puts some kind of locking mechanism on the king pin adapter, not only far more secure from "prank" uncoupling, but also from easier trailer theft as the adapter can be quietly removed from the king pin with a couple of wrenches. Just my opinion.....
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Old 03-10-2016, 05:03 AM   #7
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Back and forth, Andersen one day, conventional the next. I forget, what day is today? Yea or nay? I'm confused.
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Seems to me the real benny to an Anderson, is it's significant weight difference. If you need to remove the hitch frequently that could be enough to tip the scales.

32 lbs for the base of the current gooseneck Anderson, according to their website. No weight on the rail mount version.

Last I knew the regular hitch ETI was selling was the Reese Pro Series 15k, the only weight I can find is 144.5 lbs on the Pro Series website. Don't know if that includes the rails or just the hitch itself.

The Patriot weighs in at 95 for the base and 52 lbs for the coupler when wiggled apart, according to B&W. Pulling it apart takes a bit of work.

Looking at Anderson's website, the photo above looks like the Gooseneck mount, the rail mount version looks a lot different. Guess we'll have to wait to see if they've changed both.
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:05 AM   #9
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Having had a Scamp 19 which uses a coupler and ball setup (which I hated), and knowing how precise coupler to ball alignment must be to hook up versus the true 5th wheel hitch, in addition to the need for safety chains, I personally don't get the rampant fascination with the Ultimate Hitch. I see parallels with the almost universal belief that every Escape trailer must have Umbra hooks installed or it is not complete. I find the conventional 5th wheel hitch far easier to align and to hook up, and unless Anderson puts some kind of locking mechanism on the king pin adapter, not only far more secure from "prank" uncoupling, but also from easier trailer theft as the adapter can be quietly removed from the king pin with a couple of wrenches. Just my opinion.....
I was going to stay out to this, but decided to comment as I've had a totally different experience. The 15K Reese slider that I originally had with my 5.0 TA had a tremendous amount of forward/aft and vertical play. Whenever you hit a bump or pot hole, it would make a very loud noise which would startle my wife and I as well as our dog and sometimes jerk the truck around.. And, I can assure you that its possible to not be properly connected even when its locked in place. We experienced that once, luckily I caught it before a disaster occurred. With the Andersen there is no noise, never does it jerk the truck around, and there is no play which keeps the trailer rock steady. I have never had the lock loosen, and can observe it out of my driver side mirror the entire time when underway. However, I agree, a more secure locking device would be beneficial. Another benefit is the weight of the hitch. My Reese weighed 150 lbs, the Andersen come in a 40 lbs, a huge difference. I'm not here to dispute or disagree with anyone, just sharing my experience...
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I can certainly see the benefit of a lighter hitch setup. My plan is to use Ten Forward so often, it would be a PITA to put in/take out any hitch! After watching many Scamp 5er owners hookup, that ball thing in the bed is not for me.


ETI helped to get the hitch setup in my truck and as far as I'm concerned, it's now permanently mounted. If I need to haul something and need the entire bed, I'll just go rent a utility trailer. That probably won't happen more than once or twice a year and seems far easier than any other solution for me. YMMV
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