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Old 02-21-2016, 11:46 AM   #41
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Main reason for my not doing oil changes any more, besides what you mention Myron, is the disposal of the old oil is a pain. Environmental rules are too tough these days and you have to find an approved collection facility then go there and get rid of oil, probably fees involved too.
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Old 02-21-2016, 11:53 AM   #42
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Knowing Myron, he probably recycles the oil in his lawn mower or something else, maybe a little oil heater...he always finds ways to reuse things.
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Whatever vehicle that I was going to use for towing, I would get the tow package for it if available. One thing about getting the NHT package on a GM vehicle is that you just about have to do a special order as it is very rare to find one on a dealer's lot. Also with the NHT package, it lets you get the big camper mirrors.

Kevin, get the 6.2 and you will never regret it. Even though an Escape 21 is light by most trailer standards, you still know there is something behind you. And you can load up without worrying about it.

Doug, I see you also got the summit white on your truck. It matches the Escape color and makes for a neat looking rig. We have had many comments on ours. Loren

Kevin I agree with Loren 6.2 with the NHT package. The funny thing is I had a 5.3 before towing the same 5.0TA and the 6.2 gets better fuel economy both towing and empty.

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Old 02-21-2016, 12:52 PM   #44
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Just back from towing, Silvey’s high-tech dash display said current oil life was zero. Yesterday, after 4,300 miles since my last change, I changed the oil in my Silverado 1500.

The truck has had 4 oil changes since I got it new. The first 3 were done under warranty, free, at the dealership, and the fourth they did for $74.26. Each time they used standard oil, not synthetic. Seems to me this is a simple job, right? Turned out to be quite a learning experience.

Bought oil yesterday at WalMart. Our WalMart only sells synthetic. Needed 8.5 quarts. The WalMart tire service guy came over and said their shop would do my oil change for $45. I turned him down. Paid $69 for 9 quarts plus oil filter.

Used my floor jack to raise up the truck and put my jack stand in place for safety. Seals in the floor jack were leaking hydraulic fluid big time. Will have to fix that. It was a struggle getting this old body to skootch under there, but I did it. Feels now like I pulled something in my back during the many back and forth skootches it took.

Why many? First, my oil filter wrench was too big for the smaller PF63 filter. Had to add wedges to snug up the wrench. That done, I turned to the oil pan screw. A 15mm box wrench should have unscrewed iteasily. But, the pan bolt was so G-damn tight, my wrench would not budge it loose. No way! I tried adding leverage with a pipe. I rounded off the hexes. It finally took a medium sized Stilson pipe wrench. Whatta job. Oil came out a pretty black.

So when did a simple home-boy oil change get soo expensive and tough? I may not want to ever do this again.
Myron is your engine a diesel or gas ? Wondering because you said 8 1/2,quarts of oil . Pat
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So when did a simple home-boy oil change get soo expensive and tough? I may not want to ever do this again.
And that's th' reason I let the dealer do it while I sit in a comfortable and warm waiting room drinking their coffee and reading a good book.
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The GM 5.3 liter gas engine uses 8.5 quarts of oil. I have always done my own service work on my vehicles and the new truck is no exception. Had to go buy a bigger pan. Maybe I am wasting money but I always change oil before it is due. And a lot of his is because it would come due in the middle of a trip.

Last year the oil in my Astro van was changed in the Chevy garage because some other work. When I went to service it the next time it was a one hour job getting the filter off in pieces. They had tightened it to the max and had not lubed the rubber gasket. Loren
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Main reason for my not doing oil changes any more, besides what you mention Myron, is the disposal of the old oil is a pain. Environmental rules are too tough these days and you have to find an approved collection facility then go there and get rid of oil, probably fees involved too.
Here in tree-hugging Portland, OR we can put used motor oil in a clean milk jug and leave it at the curb with the rest of our recyclables. I still wouldn't want to change the oil. Quite doing that back in 1991.
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:25 PM   #49
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And if you schedule the first thing in the morning there's fresh donuts at my Toyota dealership. I always did my own oil service till I got the Highlander. Now it's full synthetic, they do it, wash the exterior and send me a coupon via the email so the cost isn't that bad. I'll never forget how and can prevail upon a few younger guys I know if there comes a time I'm physically or fiscally challenged. Gives me more tire to cut the grass.
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The GM 5.3 liter gas engine uses 8.5 quarts of oil. I have always done my own service work on my vehicles and the new truck is no exception. Had to go buy a bigger pan.
That is a lot of oil, even for a relatively large engine. My 6.8 L V-10 Ford doesn't take that much. I think they're doing some head cooling with oil flow.

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Maybe I am wasting money but I always change oil before it is due. And a lot of his is because it would come due in the middle of a trip.
In a vehicle without an oil condition monitoring system, it might make sense to conservatively change oil. Now that most vehicles tell you when they are due (although still not any of my vehicles), I think changing earlier just wastes money and consumes excessive resources.
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